OUT AT THE PLATE BABY!!!!!!

[Sam]

The blue did not have a good angle to see the play..

...and typical of a general umpire aversion to calling OBS on any play at the plate.

[DODGERFAN]

Looks like textbook obstruction. F2 is blocking the runner's path to the plate without the ball.

I DID NOT KNOW SHE WAS WRONG FOR SETTING UP FOR THE THROW TO HOME PLATE,I DO KNOW THE BALL WAS THEIR BEFORE THE PLAY AND IF BALL WAS NOT THIER SHE KNOWS TO MOVE FOR RUNNER......

[Sam]

Looks like textbook obstruction. F2 is blocking the runner's path to the plate without the ball.

I DID NOT KNOW SHE WAS WRONG FOR SETTING UP FOR THE THROW TO HOME PLATE,I DO KNOW THE BALL WAS THEIR BEFORE THE PLAY AND IF BALL WAS NOT THIER SHE KNOWS TO MOVE FOR RUNNER......

She has no reason to do anything differently than what she is currently doing. Umps aren't going to call her for OBS, even though she is clearly obstructing the plate without the ball....and if they do call her on it, the runner would likely have been safe had she set up correctly inside the plate and the baseline.

She's fine.

[Killer Rabbit]

Can't obstruct if the runners not there yet

[Sam]

Can't obstruct if the runners not there yet

That's funny....where is that rule?

The runner is having her path to the base blocked by F2 without the ball. The runner is actually going into her slide, though she has nowhere to slide in order to get to the base. She's not jogging, she's going full speed.

This from the ASA POE:

"If a defensive person is blocking the base or the base path without the ball, this is impeding the progress of the runner and this is obstruction. Prior to this year (2006), coaches taught to block the base, catch the ball, and make the tag. Now it must be catch the ball, block the base, and make the tag."


Pretty clear.

[DODGERFAN]

Looks like textbook obstruction. F2 is blocking the runner's path to the plate without the ball.

I DID NOT KNOW SHE WAS WRONG FOR SETTING UP FOR THE THROW TO HOME PLATE,I DO KNOW THE BALL WAS THEIR BEFORE THE PLAY AND IF BALL WAS NOT THIER SHE KNOWS TO MOVE FOR RUNNER......

She has no reason to do anything differently than what she is currently doing. Umps aren't going to call her for OBS, even though she is clearly obstructing the plate without the ball....and if they do call her on it, the runner would likely have been safe had she set up correctly inside the plate and the baseline.

She's fine.

THATS SOMETHING WE MOST DEF WILL WORK ON AND CORRECT WE WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT CALLED AGAINST HER.....

GOOD EYES.....

[Killer Rabbit]

Alright. My not-so-good eyes needed to look at the picture again. I think that she's got one more step before she starts to slide. Anyways, I do like the catch, block, tag sequence of doing things (besides being the right way, it's safer for both players), but I can't see obstruction (in the picture). If the runner slides into the catcher or attempts to slide around her before the ball arrives, obstruction. I do have a question though. Is it obstruction if halfof the plate it blocked, leaving the back half open to slide safely into, or does the entire plate need to be clear?

[DODGERFAN]

Alright. My not-so-good eyes needed to look at the picture again. I think that she's got one more step before she starts to slide. Anyways, I do like the catch, block, tag sequence of doing things (besides being the right way, it's safer for both players), but I can't see obstruction (in the picture). If the runner slides into the catcher or attempts to slide around her before the ball arrives, obstruction. I do have a question though. Is it obstruction if halfof the plate it blocked, leaving the back half open to slide safely into, or does the entire plate need to be clear?

I THOUGHT THE OBS CAME WHEN CATCHER DID NOT HAVE BALL AND STILL IS BLOCKING THE PLATE SHE IS PLAYING INSIDE AND HALF THE DISH IS OPEN BALL CAME SHE SHIFTED FOR TAG... GOOD QUESTIONS KILLER RABBIT.

LETS SEE IF ANY BSERS CAN ANSWER THEM

[Sam]

Alright. My not-so-good eyes needed to look at the picture again. I think that she's got one more step before she starts to slide. Anyways, I do like the catch, block, tag sequence of doing things (besides being the right way, it's safer for both players), but I can't see obstruction (in the picture). If the runner slides into the catcher or attempts to slide around her before the ball arrives, obstruction. I do have a question though. Is it obstruction if halfof the plate it blocked, leaving the back half open to slide safely into, or does the entire plate need to be clear?

Try reading the rule and the POE again....I wrote it out. The catcher is blocking the plate and doesn't have the ball....OBS. ASA took out the "about to receive the ball" portion of the rule about 4 years ago.

You second question is a judgement question and depends on the runner's basepath. If runner's basepath is on the plane of the blocked portion of the plate, you've still got OBS.

[Killer Rabbit]

I understand the blocking rule, but doesn't the runner need to be closer to the plate before the umpire considers OBS? If not then the catcher is blocking the plate as soon as the runner leaves third. Judgement call by the umpire. The only way the runner's path would take her to the inside of the plate was if she was trying to make the contact.