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by jonriv » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:20 pm

Have you ever noticed how much you hear about 65mph pitchers, but how few actually get clocked at that at the showcase camps???
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by rdelawder12 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:33 pm

I'll chime in on that last post, seen profiles in Florida this past fall and followed UCF around to a couple of fields to clock speeds, almost every profile that stated speeds was incorrect. So I watched her record the warm up pitches on two different pitchers and those matched the sheet. Appears pitchers are listing their walk up speeds, and not the game (2 feet on the rubber to start) speeds.
Example:
58 walk up
53 game speed
Profile said 59-60, lol
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by softballfan33 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:04 pm

rdelawder12 wrote:I'll chime in on that last post, seen profiles in Florida this past fall and followed UCF around to a couple of fields to clock speeds, almost every profile that stated speeds was incorrect. So I watched her record the warm up pitches on two different pitchers and those matched the sheet. Appears pitchers are listing their walk up speeds, and not the game (2 feet on the rubber to start) speeds.
Example:
58 walk up
53 game speed
Profile said 59-60, lol



Along those same lines, I was watching the tournament on ESPN3 (I think ESPN3 - the one with mickey ears on the pitching circle :D ), and several of those starting pitchers were being clocked at 60 mph maybe 61 and doing a darn good job at it. Now no question, there are the Ricketts and Traina's out there in the world, but does anyone know how a 58-60 mph pitcher would fair, in say, a mid major or D2 school as a starter. All you hear is how ALL pitchers are throwing 65+, but honestly if you figure roughly 1500 schools play softball - D1, D2, D3, JUCO, NAIA - how many pitchers out there are throwing 65+ to be on these teams? There are usually 3 pitchers per team (I know, I know, some more and some less - but on average), that is about 4500 holes for pitchers across the country. Do we really have 4500 pitchers that throw 65+ (that would be 1100 per graduating year on average)? I was looking at some scouting reports and only maybe 3% of the girls on those lists came close to touching that and I would argue that isn't on a regular basis and likely not in a game situation. Others opinions? Our team has 4 pitchers. We actually put the radar to them all in early spring practice and they on average were throwing 55-58 - this is a second year 14U team. Two of them, have certainly finished growing and although they will get a little stronger and I suspect with more work will hit right at 60, they will likely never hit 65+. What would be the outlook for them?

FYI - I have no dog in the hunt. Mine tried pitching and it was too much work and responsibility but she does catch so was curious.
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by Diesels_dad » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:46 pm

fastpitchdad05 wrote:Oh I see...you're just another HB smart-ass!

Welcome...You'll fit right in here! :lol:


Think u r half right. Just not sure about the smart part. Lol
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by Diesels_dad » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:52 pm

jonriv wrote:Have you ever noticed how much you hear about 65mph pitchers, but how few actually get clocked at that at the showcase camps???


True. What's crazier is when you produce such showcase documents, and then challenge with how much wind was blowing that day....... :lol:
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by jonriv » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:59 pm

Diesels_dad wrote:
jonriv wrote:Have you ever noticed how much you hear about 65mph pitchers, but how few actually get clocked at that at the showcase camps???[/quote

True. What's crazier is when you produce such showcase documents, and then challenge with how much wind was blowing that day....... :lol:


Wow- that must be the best comeback I have ever heard-makes me miss Joe :D
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by 3'sDad » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:48 am

As I've stated on this board previously my little cupcake throws at 60 as well:

.......down hill & down wind in a hurricaine.....

the 52-54 mph drop ball (she does not do walk-thru's) she suddenly mastered, along with the 52 mph drop curve and a nasty screwball will be more than enough for her to record plenty of outs this Spring & Summer.

She'll be gunned at the NFCA Northeast Academic Camp in June. I looked at last years NFCA Academic pitching statistics posted. She'll be right in the mean, median & mode of last year's pitchers.
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by DonnieS » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:29 pm

3'sDad wrote:As I've stated on this board previously my little cupcake throws at 60 as well:

.......down hill & down wind in a hurricaine.....

the 52-54 mph drop ball (she does not do walk-thru's) she suddenly mastered, along with the 52 mph drop curve and a nasty screwball will be more than enough for her to record plenty of outs this Spring & Summer.

She'll be gunned at the NFCA Northeast Academic Camp in June. I looked at last years NFCA Academic pitching statistics posted. She'll be right in the mean, median & mode of last year's pitchers.


Mine graduated and she is still mean.
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by 3'sDad » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:48 am

Donnie: No fair calling my wife names, only I'm allowed!
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by rdelawder12 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:20 pm

Heinz shut down UofA, 7IP-4H-2R-1ER-6BB-5K-1HR
VT beat UofA 9-2, Babcock got the loss giving up 5 Earned and Pinon gave up 4 Earned.
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