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by DirtyRiders » Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:00 pm

I have asked this before but have yet to get a good answer. According to the CDC’s updated number of confirmed positive cases and the number of unfortunate deaths listed as COVID positive deaths in the US and using the current population in the US, the number of positive cases in the US is 1.1% of the total population. And only .04% of the total population has unfortunately died from this virus. A recent study published in the Washington Post found that children under 20 were half as likely as adults 20 yrs and older in contracting this disease. So I will ask again based on these factual numbers.....and without calling me an Asshole....When is ok to worry about the 98.9% of the people and most importantly our kids who don’t have the virus? I agree with a lot of your viewpoints. The player no matter where she was from and her parents we’re incredibly irresponsible, insincere, and negligent taking their daughter to Utah. But our kids playing this game is not just for us. It not just about us. It is important to these kids futures beyond the dirt. I care about the well being of others and don’t wish harm on anyone, but seriously someone tell when is it ok to look out for the non-infected?
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by dthomca » Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:49 pm

DirtyRiders wrote:I have asked this before but have yet to get a good answer. According to the CDC’s updated number of confirmed positive cases and the number of unfortunate deaths listed as COVID positive deaths in the US and using the current population in the US, the number of positive cases in the US is 1.1% of the total population. And only .04% of the total population has unfortunately died from this virus. A recent study published in the Washington Post found that children under 20 were half as likely as adults 20 yrs and older in contracting this disease. So I will ask again based on these factual numbers.....and without calling me an Asshole....When is ok to worry about the 98.9% of the people and most importantly our kids who don’t have the virus? I agree with a lot of your viewpoints. The player no matter where she was from and her parents we’re incredibly irresponsible, insincere, and negligent taking their daughter to Utah. But our kids playing this game is not just for us. It not just about us. It is important to these kids futures beyond the dirt. I care about the well being of others and don’t wish harm on anyone, but seriously someone tell when is it ok to look out for the non-infected?


I would ask what constitutes "worry[ing] about the 98.9% of the people...who don't have the virus"? IMHO, the best we can do to take care of the 98.9% is to follow recommended precautions (I'm not an infectious disease expert, so I consider the advice of those that are when an infectious disease is at issue) and continue living within those parameters, with a dash of common sense mixed in (see my remark re: not taking your kid to an event if they might be sick). If all the "non-infected" were going about their business but honestly, 100% following said CDC guidelines about masking, social distancing, etc, I would say that would be a huge step towards taking care of the 98.9%; I would also say that we would likely not be responding to questions about this on a message board cuz we'd all be at (or coming home from) the field right now were we doing this as a society. Preemptively, I must add that I believe that baseball/softball provides as much/more social distancing than golf (which is currently allowed under the most restrictive guidelines that I've seen) but have been swept up in the "youth sports" restrictions recently re-enacted in several areas; therefore I believe that playing these sports fits within social distancing guidelines (I will also acknowledge that this point is my opinion and therefore subject to debate).
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by DirtyRiders » Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:22 pm

What constitutes worrying about is that the only numbers that are being reported is that of the infected. And the only part of the population the media is centered around and reporting the numbers of is the infected. You, unlike a lot of the responders in this forum, have compelling and thought provoking answers. I agree with the earlier response to your post about the player and her family traveling to Utah knowing that she had active symptoms. It was a resfreshingly compelling response and had the beauty of a non-political narrative and yet still empowered a level of response that most posts lack. But with all due respect, you too have failed to answer my question. When do the non-infected and their well being get our attention? Because if we think they aren’t suffering we’re not paying attention which is my ultimate point.
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by Blind Assassin » Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:25 am

National strategy? With the astronomically idiotic guidance he's gotten from CDC, WHO, and NIH, what else could he have done? Biden, Pelosi, et. al. said that the China travel ban he implemented was racist, unnecessary and stupid immediately upon the order. The Constitution leaves the majority of the decision-making in these situations to the Governors of the states. The ones that are having the real issues are the ones in the blue states.

Softball? Won't matter anyway. It's a sport now for people who have money. The democrats are driving us into a bigger version of Venezuela. Won't be too long before we won't be thinking about softball....we'll be thinking of putting Rover on the barbecue. Bon Apetit.
"I don't look for trouble....trouble looks for me." - Five Finger Death Punch
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by Backnine » Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:48 am

If they would have tested all players and parents in attendance, probably 50 to 100 would have tested positive due to being either asymptomatic or a false positive test. Does anybody really believe she was the only person there that was infected with covid. Come on man. The more they test the more cases they are going to find. Thank God the doctors have figure out better ways to treat it and the death numbers are headed in the right direction. This virus is going to be around for quite some time. If the choice is shutter down society or learn to live with it, I will take the learn to live with it. Don't forget there is great consequence to society both economically and mentally in being told to SIP.
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by jonriv » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:37 am

Backnine wrote:If they would have tested all players and parents in attendance, probably 50 to 100 would have tested positive due to being either asymptomatic or a false positive test. Does anybody really believe she was the only person there that was infected with covid. Come on man. The more they test the more cases they are going to find. Thank God the doctors have figure out better ways to treat it and the death numbers are headed in the right direction. This virus is going to be around for quite some time. If the choice is shutter down society or learn to live with it, I will take the learn to live with it. Don't forget there is great consequence to society both economically and mentally in being told to SIP.



Wish they could test everyone before an event- this would certainly lower the chances of someone unknowingly spreading it. Part of living with it is making sure that we follow protocols and minimize risk. We can avoid SIP by following some simple practices. The easy one is if you test positive you need to quarantine
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by Under the Radar » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:31 am

Someone needs to develop a pregnancy type test, that would give results in minutes. This will be the only way we can move forward & avoid outbreaks, until a vaccine is available.
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by Backnine » Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:55 pm

Under the Radar wrote:Someone needs to develop a pregnancy type test, that would give results in minutes. This will be the only way we can move forward & avoid outbreaks, until a vaccine is available.


They have test that get results in 15 minutes. My wife is a doctor and she has them at her office. The same test, test for antibodies too!

BTW, before my wife got her test in, I got the antibody test (vial of blood) at my doctors. Results were that I didn't have antibodies. But the fine print on the results say that this test could be false positive up to 20% of the time and false negative 20% of the time. That is crazy. My wifes test are 15 % false and require just two drops of blood.(finger prick)
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by YZFAM » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:07 pm

Melissar305 is not a woman... clearly a man. Not that it matters. Most likely Melissa is his wife or daughter... or has gender-identity issues.
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by Backnine » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:19 am

YZFAM wrote:Melissar305 is not a woman... clearly a man. Not that it matters. Most likely Melissa is his wife or daughter... or has gender-identity issues.


That was uncalled for and you need to apologize, but it was funny!
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