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by Sam » Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:51 pm

Dmbntspd,

The fact is that you can't name anybody that isn't:

a) coaching a Gold team that isn't even considered a top team in OC,
b) coaching a Gold team that hasn't been a top team since Christ was a corporal.

I also know Phil....and he doesn't pressure his Gold players to change instructors to go to him. The team already pays him. Phil's students are predominantly younger players.

So...you don't know what you think you know.

OBTW: I plainly stated that a kid would be an idiot if they didn't go to Rico for instruction. I wouldn't cross the street for anybody else's instruction....of the ones you mentioned.
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by dumbbutnotstupid » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:12 pm

Sam wrote:Dmbntspd,

The fact is that you can't name anybody that isn't:

a) coaching a Gold team that isn't even considered a top team in OC,
b) coaching a Gold team that hasn't been a top team since Christ was a corporal.

I also know Phil....and he doesn't pressure his Gold players to change instructors to go to him. The team already pays him. Phil's students are predominantly younger players.

So...you don't know what you think you know.

OBTW: I plainly stated that a kid would be an idiot if they didn't go to Rico for instruction. I wouldn't cross the street for anybody else's instruction....of the ones you mentioned.


You just proved my point with your above statement.

Also, any kid that doesnt go to Rico is an idiot? Unbelieveable statement.
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by Sam » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:20 am

dumbbutnotstupid wrote:
Sam wrote:Dmbntspd,

The fact is that you can't name anybody that isn't:

a) coaching a Gold team that isn't even considered a top team in OC,
b) coaching a Gold team that hasn't been a top team since Christ was a corporal.

I also know Phil....and he doesn't pressure his Gold players to change instructors to go to him. The team already pays him. Phil's students are predominantly younger players.

So...you don't know what you think you know.

OBTW: I plainly stated that a kid would be an idiot if they didn't go to Rico for instruction. I wouldn't cross the street for anybody else's instruction....of the ones you mentioned.



You just proved my point with your above statement.

Also, any kid that doesnt go to Rico is an idiot? Unbelieveable statement.


A) You never had a point.

B) If you don't know that Rico is one of the few Gold coaches that actually earns his instruction money, then...again...you don't know very much.
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by dumbbutnotstupid » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:56 am

Sam wrote:
dumbbutnotstupid wrote:
Sam wrote:Dmbntspd,

The fact is that you can't name anybody that isn't:

a) coaching a Gold team that isn't even considered a top team in OC,
b) coaching a Gold team that hasn't been a top team since Christ was a corporal.

I also know Phil....and he doesn't pressure his Gold players to change instructors to go to him. The team already pays him. Phil's students are predominantly younger players.

So...you don't know what you think you know.

OBTW: I plainly stated that a kid would be an idiot if they didn't go to Rico for instruction. I wouldn't cross the street for anybody else's instruction....of the ones you mentioned.



You just proved my point with your above statement.

Also, any kid that doesnt go to Rico is an idiot? Unbelieveable statement.


A) You never had a point.

B) If you don't know that Rico is one of the few Gold coaches that actually earns his instruction money, then...again...you don't know very much.


In your own statements above, you are "pushing" kids to Rico, going all the way to say if you dont go, your an idiot. Kids,and parents, take that to heart. Espically if its coming from the head coach of the travel team they are on. Never mind if they are going great, hitting the snot out of the ball, going to someone whos doing a great job with them. All they heard was,
"If your not going to Rico, you are an idiot."
Never said he didnt earn his money. But what has that got to do with it? Many coaches earn their money. "Earning" his money doesnt translate into making the instructor any better than the next person and it certainly doesnt make any kid that doesnt go to him an idiot.
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by Sam » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:02 am

Nice try...attempting to change your original argument to fit the point you failed to make.....very nice. Next time you might try actually to comment on subjects you actually have a smidgeon on knowledge about....it will save you the embarrassment you are now experiencing.
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by Demonboy » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:03 am

Bottom line what you are saying is not true. Tony and Gary do not pressure their players to go
to them for instruction.

Raiders and Desperados are not top Gold teams.

In a nutshell every example you offered up was inaccurate.
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by DonnieS » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:04 am

dumbbutnotstupid wrote: In your own statements above, you are "pushing" kids to Rico, going all the way to say if you dont go, your an idiot. Kids,and parents, take that to heart. Espically if its coming from the head coach of the travel team they are on. Never mind if they are going great, hitting the snot out of the ball, going to someone whos doing a great job with them. All they heard was,
"If your not going to Rico, you are an idiot."
Never said he didnt earn his money. But what has that got to do with it? Many coaches earn their money. "Earning" his money doesnt translate into making the instructor any better than the next person and it certainly doesnt make any kid that doesnt go to him an idiot.


pmfji, but its the job of the head coach to encourage his kids to improve and if 'pushing' them to a acknowledged good instructor does that, wth. I push hard for that same reason, at least until I hear a good reason not to, like the kid's family cant afford it or she is struggling with homework. Are you just arguing to argue, seems to be a lot of that going around.
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by dumbbutnotstupid » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:11 am

DonnieS wrote:
dumbbutnotstupid wrote: In your own statements above, you are "pushing" kids to Rico, going all the way to say if you dont go, your an idiot. Kids,and parents, take that to heart. Espically if its coming from the head coach of the travel team they are on. Never mind if they are going great, hitting the snot out of the ball, going to someone whos doing a great job with them. All they heard was,
"If your not going to Rico, you are an idiot."
Never said he didnt earn his money. But what has that got to do with it? Many coaches earn their money. "Earning" his money doesnt translate into making the instructor any better than the next person and it certainly doesnt make any kid that doesnt go to him an idiot.


pmfji, but its the job of the head coach to encourage his kids to improve and if 'pushing' them to a acknowledged good instructor does that, wth. I push hard for that same reason, at least until I hear a good reason not to, like the kid's family cant afford it or she is struggling with homework. Are you just arguing to argue, seems to be a lot of that going around.


Totally agree, IF the kids struggling. If it anit broke, why fix it?
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by dumbbutnotstupid » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:14 am

Sam wrote:Nice try...attempting to change your original argument to fit the point you failed to make.....very nice. Next time you might try actually to comment on subjects you actually have a smidgeon on knowledge about....it will save you the embarrassment you are now experiencing.


Where did I change from my original argument. Please explain?

What subjects would you like to converse on?
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by dumbbutnotstupid » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:15 am

Demonboy wrote:Bottom line what you are saying is not true. Tony and Gary do not pressure their players to go
to them for instruction.

Raiders and Desperados are not top Gold teams.

In a nutshell every example you offered up was inaccurate.


Sorry, I know different. We agree to disagree.
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