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by PDad » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:53 pm

jtat32 wrote:Large studies like the one that I cited take some years to be assembled and published. I didn't see a more recent comprehensive one.

I don't know where you looked, but the latest CDC data is at http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats. The latest report, Sexually Transmitted Disease Surveillance 2012, provides a lot of historical context along with the stats from 2012. Note: A surprising stat I ran across while skimming through it is gay males account for roughly 60% of all Syphilis cases and is climbing.

HPV accounts for nearly 70% of STD infections, so it needs to be included in any STD discussion.

FWIW, I don't see the relevance of STD stats in this discussion. Promiscuity is only one factor in their rates.
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by jonriv » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:57 pm

I certainly don't live in a bubble and certainly understand the plethora of stuff out there. In many ways the influences are more controllable now then back in our day. How many people did you come in contact with back in your teenage days that your parents did not know? I came from a divorced home, but my parents still made sure I knew right from wrong. Divorce rates have been pretty flat since the mid seventies

I don't blame the media, they just put on what people want to watch. It's sad that the general public demands so little.

Again, it still comes down the parents. My dd watches the kardajians, not because she admires and wants to emulate her, but because she views it as a parody. If you raise your kids right and are involved in their development(like softball parents) they make right decisions
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by CheckWriter » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:50 am

I just don't buy the demise of our society. I think it has become a little too self centered, especially our politicians, but the vast majority of young ladies that shared the travel ball and college ball journey with my DDs came out just fine (I do have to admit that there seems to be a DQ sprinkled in now and again).

As far as foul language goes, whether in conversation, prose, film or music, over use just seems to me to be lazy. Has more effect, I think, when used as punctuation (again, I have to admit, sometimes the work wouldn't be the same with out it ... Dogma and Boondock Saints come to mind).

A while ago I heard a radio interview with a linguist who had written a book about language and early acquisition of vocabulary, etc and kids start learning these words at age 2 and have pretty much their full complement by age 5.

Curse words are as old as language. Personally, I think using a lot of them just takes away from the content of the discussion, kind of like when posts are consistently packed with typos, bad grammar and wrong words (do have to cut some slack for fat fingered cell phone replies).

Not that the NY Times is a definitive source but the article refers to a lot of the same background material as the interview I heard:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/20/science/20curs.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

I studied science in school but my younger DD is into language. It is an amazing tool that humankind has developed.
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by GIMNEPIWO » Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:23 am

Dugout Dad wrote:
exD1dad wrote:Yes Jonriv PC public work behavior is hypocritical & it is the parents faults but here in Cali 75% or marriages end in divorce. The institution of family is broken

Yup. And how many don't even bother to get married. Next time you get a chance, look in the local paper and look at the birth announcements. You will notice 25 -50% of births are to same last name couples(married) and the rest are to two last name couples(unmarried). I guess sign of the times.


Not necessarily true, but possibly ... Some married couples choose for the bride to not change her last name ... There is no law saying she must do so and when 2/3's of them get divorced they won't need to order new checks :lol:
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