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[OCTravelCoach]

A declaration is not a fact...it is simply a statement and has no basis in fact or fiction. It is simply making a statement...such as....The Declaration of Independence...which was a statement...not of fact...but of want.

Well, we could go round & round on this. What I cited you is from a comprehnsive study of language and how humans communicate. Unfortunately, I don't have the reference book at my office. But I'll provide you the author and you can take it up with him.

And the Declaration of Independence was fact. They were declaring they were no longer under the rule of British authority -- which was indeed fact based on their actions.

[OCTravelCoach]

What we have here, as Strother Martin put it in Cool Hand Luke is "a failure to communicate."

Does he say that before or after he eats all those hard boiled eggs, boy I love that movie.

It's way after the eggs, when they capture him and he gets the leg irons.

[Sam]

A declaration is not a fact...it is simply a statement and has no basis in fact or fiction. It is simply making a statement...such as....The Declaration of Independence...which was a statement...not of fact...but of want.

Well, we could go round & round on this. What I cited you is from a comprehnsive study of language and how humans communicate. Unfortunately, I don't have the reference book at my office. But I'll provide you the author and you can take it up with him.

And the Declaration of Independence was fact. They were declaring they were no longer under the rule of British authority -- which was indeed fact based on their actions.

I'm pretty sure they fought for their independence and weren't independent until the war was over and Britain granted them their independence. Britain still considered them colonies until the end of the war....so the declaration was of a want and not a fact.

Apparently the author of your communication book has problems communicating.

[OCTravelCoach]

A declaration is not a fact...it is simply a statement and has no basis in fact or fiction. It is simply making a statement...such as....The Declaration of Independence...which was a statement...not of fact...but of want.

Well, we could go round & round on this. What I cited you is from a comprehnsive study of language and how humans communicate. Unfortunately, I don't have the reference book at my office. But I'll provide you the author and you can take it up with him.

And the Declaration of Independence was fact. They were declaring they were no longer under the rule of British authority -- which was indeed fact based on their actions.

I'm pretty sure they fought for their independence and weren't independent until the war was over and Britain granted them their independence. Britain still considered them colonies until the end of the war....so the declaration was of a want and not a fact.

Apparently the author of your communication book has problems communicating.

Sam, a declaration absent of fact is an observation by default.

By declaring their independence -- non compliance with British authority -- and then acting on it, it becomes fact. Since the author is a PhD in communications and a world renouned authority, who spent decades studying language, he's got the edge on expertise.

However, you'd pound him to mincemeat on first and third defensive strategy.

[Sam]

A declaration is not a fact...it is simply a statement and has no basis in fact or fiction. It is simply making a statement...such as....The Declaration of Independence...which was a statement...not of fact...but of want.

Well, we could go round & round on this. What I cited you is from a comprehnsive study of language and how humans communicate. Unfortunately, I don't have the reference book at my office. But I'll provide you the author and you can take it up with him.

And the Declaration of Independence was fact. They were declaring they were no longer under the rule of British authority -- which was indeed fact based on their actions.

I'm pretty sure they fought for their independence and weren't independent until the war was over and Britain granted them their independence. Britain still considered them colonies until the end of the war....so the declaration was of a want and not a fact.

Apparently the author of your communication book has problems communicating.

Sam, a declaration absent of fact is an observation by default.

By declaring their independence -- non compliance with British authority -- and then acting on it, it becomes fact. Since the author is a PhD in communications and a world renouned authority, who spent decades studying language, he's got the edge on expertise.

However, you'd pound him to mincemeat on first and third defensive strategy.

So you are saying that our founding fathers actually signed "The Observation of Independence"....since the British didn't recognize the independence of the colonies until the end of the war....The Declaration couldn't be considered fact until it was recognized by the country we were considered dependent upon. The fact that you declare war, for instance, doesn't necessarily mean you are actually at war....you have to act upon your declaration...fact has nothing to do with it.

Sometimes PhD's think too much or think too little....it appears that he/she is stuck in their own declaration/observation paradigm...they might need to think a little more and change their perception.

[txfpcoach]

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[OCTravelCoach]

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Good call!

[pitchersmom96]

So lets get it back on the topic that I started.... I could be wrong so help me out but I thought I read in ASA you cant have Coaches fees in the budget?

[Coach11]

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Oh man....I was sure they were just about to get into what the definition of is, is.