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[NumeroUno]

Pro Softball Player: ‘Yankees Bat Boy Salary is More Than My Professional Contract’

https://fanbuzz.com/mlb/delanie-gourley ... -contract/

[Chin Music]

Pro softball is just not as appealing to the eye as the CWS. No fans at games, cruddy fields and no excitement amongst the softball community. Until that’s fixed nothing will change.

[Schmick]

Professional Sports salaries are based on entertainment first and foremost.
Like it or not, women's team sports don't draw the viewers or interest that men's team sports do.
There are other industries where women get paid way more than men do.
Its a free market and she had the freedom to choose the industry she chose.

[jonriv]

I want to watch pro softball, but its just does not have the same buzz as even a regular season college game. Frankly I fin it unwatchable.

The need to learn from the Japanese pro league(or even some of the European semi-pro leagues)

Maybe they need an arrangement with MLB(similar to the WNBA/NBA)??

[Schmick]

Fastpitch needs it's own stadiums and that makes it nothing but an additional cost to MLB with no benefit.


The wnba has been a total failure and nothing but a black eye on the NBA and now, the players of the wnba want NBA salaries when they play less games with fewer fans who are there for nearly free and no TV interest.

[jonriv]

Fastpitch needs it's own stadiums and that makes it nothing but an additional cost to MLB with no benefit.


The wnba has been a total failure and nothing but a black eye on the NBA and now, the players of the wnba want NBA salaries when they play less games with fewer fans who are there for nearly free and no TV interest.

So what's your great idea schmick head?

[Schmick]

There is no great idea involving pro women's fastpitch.
College and International play will continue to be the pinnacle of the sport.
Society does not support professional women's team sports. Forcing men's sports to subsidize them stops at the university level because as of now, the socialist feminists taking over our country have not yet applied title ix to pro sports leagues.

Until you see a fundamental shift in our society and can drive past a park and see a handful of girls, with no parents and no coaches around, out playing softball (or soccer or basketball....) you're never going to see a viable pro women's spftball league.

Look at soccer, the women's US national soccer team were the darlings of the sports world, they packed 100,000 seat stadiums in the US on the way to winning the world cup. They got people to sink millions in to a woman's pro soccer league. And that money did just that, sank. When you took away the USA vs the World, play for national pride, you took away the American Sports fans desire to watch girls play soccer.

College softball works because
A. Title ix feeds money in to the facilities, coaching staffs, scholarships. Without title ix, and if left to themselves to fund, how many universities have self sufficient softball programs?

B. Most college sports fans support all of that college's sports teams. Often they went to the school or sent their kids to the school. They take pride in the school and support it's whole athletic department.


A woman's pro softball league has neither the title ix subsidies or they loyal fan base tied to school pride. It's why the npf or whatever it's called has failed so miserably.

Trying to change that by starting with a pro league is a waste of time, resources and money, look at the wnba. What needs to change is society and human nature and I have no ability or idea on how to do that, nor any want to if I had.

We did ask the girls on my DDs team last year in Colorado if they would rather see a women's softball game or go see the Colorado Rockies play the gnats at Coors Field while we were up there. 100% of them chose Rockies vs gnats. What hope does pro softball have if even travel softball players would rather go watch baseball?

[Schmick]

If the question is.... how do females make the same amount as males. My idea is to go work in an industry where that happens. Google pays women more then men who have the same qualifications, certificates, time on the job.... Bruce Jenner's wife makes way more money than he does on their family's show. Bruce Jenner's daughter, Kendall, was the highest paid model last year making more than 22 million dollars and she walked the runway in exactly 0 fashion shows. The highest paid male model, Sean O'Pry made 1 million dollars and was in over 40 shows.

So much of the way society works makes Zero sense.

[jonriv]

I think there is a place for a professional softball league as a minor sport. I think Japan shows it can work. I think the current league has done a poor job in organization, marketing and frankly producing a boring product. How you have a professional softball league, but are not in the biggest softball market(SoCal) is mind blowing?

Frankly, I think if PGF start its own pro or semi pro league centered in Cali would be far more successful. It could then expand via other regional spots(ie. Texas etc)

[Schmick]

I think there is a place for a professional softball league as a minor sport. I think Japan shows it can work. I think the current league has done a poor job in organization, marketing and frankly producing a boring product. How you have a professional softball league, but are not in the biggest softball market(SoCal) is mind blowing?

Frankly, I think if PGF start its own pro or semi pro league centered in Cali would be far more successful. It could then expand via other regional spots(ie. Texas etc)

That may work. Great Park already has a softball stadium. I feel that if the pro season started in June, after the college season ended, they might be able to get some interest from softball fans.

One issue they will have is that those most likely to follow pro softball are already going to be busy traveling all over the country in June and July playing in the various travel tournament championships.

Maybe they should start in August and run through October. Or, tie it in to PGF and have opening weekend coincide with the 18u championship at Bill Barber in