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TCS Has Cancelled Colorado: Regional Games instead

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by DirtyRiders » Wed May 20, 2020 4:54 pm

People seem to focus on who has the virus or who unfortunately has died because of this virus. To shed light on this a different way there are 329,474,416 Americans out of 331,002,651 who have not been infected by this virus. That means 99.5% of Americans have not been infected. 330,910,987 out of 331,002,651 Americans are Alive in spite of this virus. That means 99.97% of all Americans are Alive in spite of this virus. I agree with setting guidelines to return to the field even with those numbers, but at what point is it ok to focus on the population that doesn’t have the virus. The mortality rate is misleading because it doesn’t account for the 329,474,416 healthy Americans.
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by SDTitans » Wed May 20, 2020 7:37 pm

DirtyRiders wrote:People seem to focus on who has the virus or who unfortunately has died because of this virus. To shed light on this a different way there are 329,474,416 Americans out of 331,002,651 who have not been infected by this virus. That means 99.5% of Americans have not been infected. 330,910,987 out of 331,002,651 Americans are Alive in spite of this virus. That means 99.97% of all Americans are Alive in spite of this virus. I agree with setting guidelines to return to the field even with those numbers, but at what point is it ok to focus on the population that doesn’t have the virus. The mortality rate is misleading because it doesn’t account for the 329,474,416 healthy Americans.


everyone in America would have to be tested to make those claims. They have not and most likely not every American will be tested.




Why can't people just be honest and say, I could careless if anyone catches it.. I just want to be out on the dirt watching my kid play.. what happens happens..
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by DirtyRiders » Wed May 20, 2020 11:27 pm

To make those claims? Those numbers are straight from the CDC website. I’m not claiming anything I’m simply saying that 99.5% of Americans have not been infected. So you answered my question....you’re saying we should not play softball again because millions of Americans “might” have the virus and we won’t know until everyone is tested?
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by jonriv » Thu May 21, 2020 10:08 am

DirtyRiders wrote:People seem to focus on who has the virus or who unfortunately has died because of this virus. To shed light on this a different way there are 329,474,416 Americans out of 331,002,651 who have not been infected by this virus. That means 99.5% of Americans have not been infected. 330,910,987 out of 331,002,651 Americans are Alive in spite of this virus. That means 99.97% of all Americans are Alive in spite of this virus. I agree with setting guidelines to return to the field even with those numbers, but at what point is it ok to focus on the population that doesn’t have the virus. The mortality rate is misleading because it doesn’t account for the 329,474,416 healthy Americans.


Less than 4% of Americans have been tested- ultimately the best judge if covid deaths are over or under reported will be the Excess Deaths- huge variations state by state, but probably give the best indication on the epidemic's impact

Also, there seems to be an after effect on kids. There has been an outbreak of a very rare "Kawasaki" syndrome on kids previously with covid in NY, now showing up in other places NY, Colorado and California. Something to watch
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by Schmoopy » Thu May 21, 2020 5:02 pm

jonriv wrote:
DirtyRiders wrote:People seem to focus on who has the virus or who unfortunately has died because of this virus. To shed light on this a different way there are 329,474,416 Americans out of 331,002,651 who have not been infected by this virus. That means 99.5% of Americans have not been infected. 330,910,987 out of 331,002,651 Americans are Alive in spite of this virus. That means 99.97% of all Americans are Alive in spite of this virus. I agree with setting guidelines to return to the field even with those numbers, but at what point is it ok to focus on the population that doesn’t have the virus. The mortality rate is misleading because it doesn’t account for the 329,474,416 healthy Americans.


Less than 4% of Americans have been tested- ultimately the best judge if covid deaths are over or under reported will be the Excess Deaths- huge variations state by state, but probably give the best indication on the epidemic's impact

Also, there seems to be an after effect on kids. There has been an outbreak of a very rare "Kawasaki" syndrome on kids previously with covid in NY, now showing up in other places NY, Colorado and California. Something to watch




My kids are seen at Children's here in Colorado, they have a rare autoimmune disease. We've been given a heads up about this as well.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... mis-c.html

They also just signed us up for a study too.

Honestly, I just want to follow the NCAA, the Little League World Series, the Pro's, the public school system etc.... can we just shut down this season and try again next year? I don't want to risk my daughter's health to play softball. This is a National past time, not essential jobs. Issue these families refunds(who most have been financially effected by this pandemic as it is) and lets focus on 2021.
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by DirtyRiders » Thu May 21, 2020 7:54 pm

Thoughts and prayers to you and your family. You raise a good point....and it is definitely thought provoking...is it worth it to just wait till 2021 to start back up for the safety of the kids. I would say on the surface no it’s not worth our kids safety to start playing again. But as a Father who is sympathetic to the unimaginable circumstances you have endured I still have to ask when is it ok to concern ourselves with the kids who don’t have the virus.
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by LoveMeSomeFastpitch » Sun May 24, 2020 1:29 pm

Please forgive my ignorance with this question, but does anyone know why PGF isn't keeping the tournament link on their website better updated on the cancelation of tournaments? There was supposed to be a Memorial Day kickoff this weekend in NorCal, and even today it's up there on their website with the teams scheduled to participate. No mention of it being canceled. Obviously it was canceled, but what about next week? I have a friend who told me last night his daughter's team was given the green light for their tournament next weekend. Given that we are still in stage 2 of the reopening, I told him to not hold his breath. I'm just asking as a courtesy and with all due respect, could the folks at PGF please just post it on your tournament page a few days in advance when you've made a decision to cancel a tournament, so people can plan accordingly? Thank you!
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by newbie101 » Sun May 24, 2020 2:26 pm

I am not sure what the big Rush to play is for all these 12u & 14u teams, event the 16u teams. I mean, I as much as the next parent want to get out and see my kids play. But I also see numbers of infections still on the rise & everything is opening up regardless of it. Your 12u player is not going to miss her scholarship chance if she does not get to play this next weekend.
To all of the Teams that are playing when they are not allowed, all you are doing is prolonging things for everyone else.
I know some of the coaches need to justify charging dues, but why put society at risk to do it. Our coach reduced dues when this started and we just now started doing one on one hitting. For the States that are allowing tournaments and inviting teams from other states to attend, that is just plain STUPID. Even if your state is good or your County (OC) why oh why would you want to invite a bunch of teams & families from other areas & states that may bring infection to your own home? Just to make a couple bucks. I mean seriously if PGF & TCS & all the other smaller Orgs. really cared about the players & communities health & safety, they would just stop pushing and wait for the all clear. I mean another annoying thing is all the "well Next week or two we will have an event" BS. If the States are not allowing even small groups to be on the athletic fields, what makes you think in a few weeks they would allow groups of 80 or more. At best I think teams will be allowed to play 1 game or a double header at a time and that would maybe late July or even August if we are lucky. Again I am all for wanting to get out there but pump the brakes & have a reality check. Sorry if this comes off as a rant, I just dont get what the big rush is.
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by Luiaguilera » Sun May 24, 2020 2:37 pm

newbie101 wrote:I am not sure what the big Rush to play is for all these 12u & 14u teams, event the 16u teams. I mean, I as much as the next parent want to get out and see my kids play. But I also see numbers of infections still on the rise & everything is opening up regardless of it. Your 12u player is not going to miss her scholarship chance if she does not get to play this next weekend.
To all of the Teams that are playing when they are not allowed, all you are doing is prolonging things for everyone else.
I know some of the coaches need to justify charging dues, but why put society at risk to do it. Our coach reduced dues when this started and we just now started doing one on one hitting. For the States that are allowing tournaments and inviting teams from other states to attend, that is just plain STUPID. Even if your state is good or your County (OC) why oh why would you want to invite a bunch of teams & families from other areas & states that may bring infection to your own home? Just to make a couple bucks. I mean seriously if PGF & TCS & all the other smaller Orgs. really cared about the players & communities health & safety, they would just stop pushing and wait for the all clear. I mean another annoying thing is all the "well Next week or two we will have an event" BS. If the States are not allowing even small groups to be on the athletic fields, what makes you think in a few weeks they would allow groups of 80 or more. At best I think teams will be allowed to play 1 game or a double header at a time and that would maybe late July or even August if we are lucky. Again I am all for wanting to get out there but pump the brakes & have a reality check. Sorry if this comes off as a rant, I just dont get what the big rush is.


Well said, probably the best response on here !!!!
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by sdiamond » Mon May 25, 2020 7:55 am

by LoveMeSomeFastpitch » Sun May 24, 2020 1:29 pm

Please forgive my ignorance with this question, but does anyone know why PGF isn't keeping the tournament link on their website better updated on the cancelation of tournaments? There was supposed to be a Memorial Day kickoff this weekend in NorCal, and even today it's up there on their website with the teams scheduled to participate. No mention of it being canceled. Obviously it was canceled, but what about next week? I have a friend who told me last night his daughter's team was given the green light for their tournament next weekend. Given that we are still in stage 2 of the reopening, I told him to not hold his breath. I'm just asking as a courtesy and with all due respect, could the folks at PGF please just post it on your tournament page a few days in advance when you've made a decision to cancel a tournament, so people can plan accordingly? Thank you


PGF has its own thread and this is a very good question.
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