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by Schmick » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:32 pm

Melissar305 wrote:
Schmick wrote:What makes you think the player who tested positive came from Southern California?

2 of the lower seeded pools in 18U were playing at that park. Teams from Idaho, Reno, Vegas, No Cal, Central Cal, Salt Lake City...were amongst those 16 teams.
The article did not state where the player with the positive test came from.
Do you know where that player is from or are you just assuming it was someone from Southern California?
How do you assume something like that and still call others assholes?
I assume you're a cunt



How DARE you use the C -word in a family forum where there are ladies present! You sir are a sociopath and quite possibly a sexual deviant, much like your fuhrer Donald Trump. You know how 2+2 = 4? Well, ANY parent that would allow their child to particpate in 144 team Coronafest is an asshole. It's a mathematical equation. Had you completed your GED you might have known that.

Regardless, a sociopath like you has no business participating in this community softball forum. I'm compelled to write the administrator and request that he ban you for your misogynistic comments about women. I pray to our Lord and Savior that you don't have any children. With a father like you, who needs enemies? What a Schmuck!



So my assumption was right.

I'll get back to dusting off my degrees, while you spin
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by Schmick » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:23 pm

SDTitans wrote:
Melissar305 wrote:
Schmick wrote:What makes you think the player who tested positive came from Southern California?

2 of the lower seeded pools in 18U were playing at that park. Teams from Idaho, Reno, Vegas, No Cal, Central Cal, Salt Lake City...were amongst those 16 teams.
The article did not state where the player with the positive test came from.
Do you know where that player is from or are you just assuming it was someone from Southern California?
How do you assume something like that and still call others assholes?
I assume you're a cunt



How DARE you use the C -word in a family forum where there are ladies present! You sir are a sociopath and quite possibly a sexual deviant, much like your fuhrer Donald Trump. You know how 2+2 = 4? Well, ANY parent that would allow their child to particpate in 144 team Coronafest is an asshole. It's a mathematical equation. Had you completed your GED you might have known that.

Regardless, a sociopath like you has no business participating in this community softball forum. I'm compelled to write the administrator and request that he ban you for your misogynistic comments about women. I pray to our Lord and Savior that you don't have any children. With a father like you, who needs enemies? What a Schmuck!


When you can use derogatory words towards another and then pretend you are offended. Seems you being called that is rather true..



Right.....?
Typical leftist
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by Melissar305 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:43 pm

newbie101 wrote:It does not matter where the player came from, USA Preps & Firecrackers-Sean Brashear should not have had such an event during this time. They put their own financial interest above the public health & the sport.
All of the other large scale events have cancelled & rightfully so. Lets just hope that this does not turn into anything worse.
Per the CDC if we all just sit on our hands and avoid crowds, wear face masks & wash our hands this thing would be nipped in the bud with in a month or so. The problem is as a society we simply refuse to follow simple guidelines. My 2 cents....



Your 2 cents is the most astute observation that has been made on this topic, in this forum, maybe ever. The ONLY reason several dozen SoCal teams had to travel to Utah to play softball, is because the parents refused to be good citizens and comply with simple decent behavior during a global pandemic, one that only comes around once a century.

That's why they couldn't hold softball tournaments in Southern CA this summer and most likely fall. They don't want to wear facemasks because it imposes on their "personal liberties". They don't want to social distance in public places. They are basically in denial of this pandemic being a real thing, despite the fact that 140,000 Americans have died from it in just the past 5 months. Their love of the Orange Buffoon will not allow them to face reality.

I come here to state facts, like the fact that their kids won't be playing softball NEXT summer in Southern CA, because of the way their parents are behaving TODAY. And instead of acknowledging the reality of what I am saying, they come back at me with ad hominem attacks that have nothing to do with my point. I'm not talking about every member of this forum, just the half dozen or so regular know-it-alls that seem to have unresolved mental health issues. They use this forum as their safe space to work out their anger issues, by attacking anyone who is not in their little clique. Everyone knows who they are, no need to name them.

Until these people start acting like grownups, the coronavirus will continue to ravage Southern CA and there will be no organized team sports, professional or otherwise. That's just a fact. Trying to get around the rules by going out to Utah, so their daughters could be seen by a bunch of junior college scouts was not a responsible act and most likely only prolonged the problem in their part of the state. Northern CA is doing pretty well, because the people up here are a little more respectful of their fellow man, and know how to follow common sense rules during the middle of a global pandemic.
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by Schmick » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:08 pm

You already showed your bias in your last posts, cunty305. You attempted to blame this partial cancelation of 2 pools in the 18U division on a player from So Cal when teams from central and no Cal were there as well as teams from Vegas, Reno, Utah, Arizona, Washington, Idaho are also there.

Now you're attempting to blame the increase in Covid-19 cases on So Cal softball teams wanting to continue to practice and play games instead of the logical, obvious cause which was hundreds of thousands of leftist scum rioting in the streets in California over a dirty cop wrongfully killing a career criminal some 2000 miles and a dozen states away.

Covid-19 hasn't killed 140,000+ Americans. According to the CDC 126,000 Americans have died away where Covid-19 was present.
Now that 126k number includes a guy in Floroda dying of a motorcycle accident and someone listing his death as Covid related.
When New York puts covid infected patients in hospice care centers and then people in the hospice care centers die, they didnt die because of covid-19, they died from whatever put them in hospice care in the first place.
Otherwise healthy people are not dying from Covid-19


Now, this event in Utah has 144 teams, let's say each team has 15 girls, thats 2160 girls from at least 9 states (12 if California was properly broken up) and one girl, from who knows where, tested positive. The promoters, did the correct thing in suspending all play for and sending all the teams that have played at that facility home.
If an outbreak comes out from this, ironic as there's actually a team there called Outbreak, then the armchair QBs can nitpick this event and the 2000 plus families there to participate in it.
But since you already showed your bias and eagerness to blame a part of the state, that you dont like, for something they may have had nothing to do with, you will continue to be a cunt.
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by Calidivegirl » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:21 pm

We just got this from USA Preps ...


Hello,

The player who received a positive test result yesterday, prompting us to shut down the Archie Gubler Complex, was re-tested today and received notice of a negative result. The initial test was a FREE test conducted by her local county and took several days for the false positive. Today’s test was paid for at her local clinic and the results were expedited and confirmed to be negative.

We stand by our decision to shut down the complex for the health and safety of everyone involved. We hope this new test result provides everyone with a bit of comfort moving forward.

See You on the Fields,
USA Preps
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by Schmick » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:22 pm

dthomca wrote:I'm one of the "assholes" that was there and my daughter's team is one that got shut down. In my opinion USA Preps put together a well organized, well thought out showcase in this environment. They did their best to isolate exposure, keeping pools of teams (and umpires) at a single location for the duration, actively policing any spectators behind backstops, restricting access to bleachers and putting non-active players in the bleachers once dugout capacity was reached, etc. Once the positive test was reported, they swiftly informed all teams involved and, after some back and forth, ultimately closed the facility and cancelled all subsequent games at that park. I don't think that their motives are completely absent of financial incentive, but they also didn't strong-arm 160+ teams into participating - all went in knowing the potential for exposure and clearly felt that enough protocols were in place to manage the risk (no, I don't work for them nor does my daughter play for one of Hansen's teams, and the GED wasn't required for the Master's program I completed....).

That being said, the issue currently at hand is not the possible exposure to potentially infected participants; it is the blatant, intentional, selfish disregard to the rules of the tournament and willful exposure of other participants by a KNOWINGLY EXPOSED player (and their parents) that ultimately affected ~1800 people.

Please understand these facts:
* this player (a minor) was tested on Sunday or Monday (we were told it was 5 days previous to the report)
* this player or parents apparently did not inform their coach or teammates
* this player (and parents) consciously chose to travel to and participate in this event while awaiting their results instead of quarantining themselves until they received the results as directed.

I think it's fair to say that the player likely had enough symptoms to prompt a test to start with (and had to do so with their parent's consent), so this was in no way unintentional.

Unfortunately we as a country missed our opportunity to contain this virus due to inconsistent protocols and other factors which discussion of would deviate from the point at hand; therefore, we are going to have to learn to manage this as a society, because it's not going away anytime soon. In order for a society to function, we all must abide to an implicit social contract which ultimately boils down to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" (as applied in this case, that would be "don't show up at a softball game and run around with a bunch of other kids if you're awaiting results for a test to see if you're infected with a virus currently causing a worldwide pandemic"). We are where we are with this virus largely because of the unwillingness of some to acknowledge and follow basic guidelines that show respect for your fellow citizen (see elsewhere on this board for debates ad nauseam re: mask wearing, various governors, and civil liberties) and can/may help reduce the spread (again, not gonna debate that here,..). What is on a totally different level of irresponsibility is knowing that you're sick enough to get a test but still deciding that you're going to put your desires above others' well being. This makes no sense to me - most have figured out not to take their kid to a game when they have the chicken pox (which we have a vaccine for) or pneumonia or even a high fever… why is it a mystery that we should do the same with regards to a virus with a relatively high mortality rate? Until we can collectively figure out how to act in what should be fairly obvious situations, either we quit playing softball (and participating in several other activities, like going out to dinner) altogether or what happened at USA Preps is likely part of the "new normal".



Well said, a-hole. ;)
Sorry your teams week was cut short by the irresponsible actions of one player and their family.
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by curveball496 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:11 am

As was discovered in NorCal, keeping this genii in the bottle is pretty much impossible. We are connected in ways that are simply not controllable w/field policies alone. Prisoners moved from Chino to San Quentin. A prison guard, his daughter and her friend. And a small softball friendly. Moreover, healthy people are getting very sick. Sick enough to swamp hospitals in Miami, NYC, Houston, Phoenix and I suspect most of them have parents, many of whom are quite a bit more vulnerable. The patchwork application of tactics without coordination is failing. And softball is a microcosm of this failure.
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by texmex45 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:45 am

dthomca......that was about as lucid and well thought out of a reply as I've seen in a while on the Bucket. Nicely done and your points are very well-taken. And you did so without referring to anyone as an asshole or a cunt. Thanks for that......

As for the use of the c-word, while normally don't condone its use, it was totally appropriate in this thread. When you throw rocks at folks, they may just throw a few back.
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by Melissar305 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:14 pm

texmex45 wrote:dthomca......that was about as lucid and well thought out of a reply as I've seen in a while on the Bucket. Nicely done and your points are very well-taken. And you did so without referring to anyone as an asshole or a cunt. Thanks for that......

As for the use of the c-word, while normally don't condone its use, it was totally appropriate in this thread. When you throw rocks at folks, they may just throw a few back.


I understand that while normally you don't condone using the C-word, is there ever a time when you feel that using the N-word is also totally appropriate? Or is it okay to be a misogynist, but not a racist? Is there any circumstance where you would feel comfortable using the C-word in front of your daughter, wife or players? Just curious what your line looks like.
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by texmex45 » Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:33 pm

Melissar305 wrote:
texmex45 wrote:dthomca......that was about as lucid and well thought out of a reply as I've seen in a while on the Bucket. Nicely done and your points are very well-taken. And you did so without referring to anyone as an asshole or a cunt. Thanks for that......

As for the use of the c-word, while normally don't condone its use, it was totally appropriate in this thread. When you throw rocks at folks, they may just throw a few back.


I understand that while normally you don't condone using the C-word, is there ever a time when you feel that using the N-word is also totally appropriate? Or is it okay to be a misogynist, but not a racist? Is there any circumstance where you would feel comfortable using the C-word in front of your daughter, wife or players? Just curious what your line looks like.


Melissa305 (notice I didn't use Schmick's version), you jump into these threads, gun blazing, running your mouth (or your keyboard, I guess), then you get your panties in a bunch when someone fires back (assuming you wear panties and not briefs), then you cry like a little girl....oh, but you're a lady as you have pointed out a time or two. Would I use the C-word in front of my wife? Yes, but it would not be directed toward her. Daughter, nope. Team, nope. Not sure what that has to do with this situation, in fact it has nothing to do with it. You love the abuse, otherwise you wouldn't run your mouth. Keep it coming, the entertainment value is appreciated since there's no softball! :D
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