Follow
Donate to HeyBucket.com - Amount:

Welcome Anonymous !

Your Fastpitch Softball Bible
 

Fastpitch Discussions

Coach vs Instructor

What's on your mind?

by MondayMorning3BCoach » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:09 am

My DD recently joined a well known travel team. At our first practices the coach is telling her stuff different than what her instructor is saying. I know the instructor is right, as its what the D1 coaches are teaching their players. I am sure others have run into this problem. How should I handle it?
MondayMorning3BCoach
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:02 am

by kls_hittingacademy » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:49 am

What are you talking about, hitting,pitching,throwing????
kls_hittingacademy
 
Posts: 33
Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:29 am

by Sam » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:10 am

MondayMorning3BCoach wrote:My DD recently joined a well known travel team. At our first practices the coach is telling her stuff different than what her instructor is saying. I know the instructor is right, as its what the D1 coaches are teaching their players. I am sure others have run into this problem. How should I handle it?


Lots of D1 coaches don't know their behind from a hole in the ground....if you see one wiping a hole in the ground, you might want to disregard their opinion. They might only know what they were taught by their D1 coach who taught them what she learned in 1974.

TB coaches seem to be much more willing to accept and embrace new ways to play the game. I wouldn't disregard what the TB coach wants her to do just because a paid instructor says its wrong. You have to consider the sources.
Run your mouth when I'm not around
Its easy to achieve
You cry to weak friends that sympathize
- Pantera, Walk
User avatar
Sam
Premium Member
Premium Member
 
Posts: 3174
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:22 am
Location: Norco, California

by anonlooker » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:25 pm

MondayMorning3BCoach wrote:My DD recently joined a well known travel team. At our first practices the coach is telling her stuff different than what her instructor is saying. I know the instructor is right, as its what the D1 coaches are teaching their players. I am sure others have run into this problem. How should I handle it?


Be more specific as to who is saying what.
Somebody on here will know. :o ;)
Don't worry about tomorrow. You did that yesterday.
User avatar
anonlooker
 
Posts: 3114
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:14 pm

by Ace » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:58 pm

MondayMorning3BCoach wrote:My DD recently joined a well known travel team. At our first practices the coach is telling her stuff different than what her instructor is saying. I know the instructor is right, as its what the D1 coaches are teaching their players. I am sure others have run into this problem. How should I handle it?


How do you know its right? People get caught up in whats "right" and "whos" "wrong". None of it matters. As a tb coach, I usually make a deal with the parents in the begining. If they are seeing an instructor, I will reinforce what they are being taught as long as they enjoy success and the team benefeits. If the kid is batting 175, then I make changes where I see flaws. More often then not, its mental anyway. Hitting, pitching, fielding, its 90% mental, and the rest is in their head. Bat wrap, linear, rotational, hands, hips, tilt, tall, elbow (up or down), yada yada yada. Perfect swing, zero zero count, swings at a change up away, dribbler to the pitcher, perfect swing slowly walks back to the dug out while trying to block out everything I'm about to say.
"A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed."
Ace
 
Posts: 574
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:58 pm

by 3Bsnag » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:50 pm

I disagree with you Ace, it does matter. There are plenty of TB coaches out there who know jack-squat about teaching hitting but yet continue to force their styles on players. For that matter, there are plenty of hitting coaches who know that much or less. And what is the one skill a player can have that will guarantee playing time? He who hits, plays.

I do agree that the majority of hitting is mental though.

As long as ego's are not involved (ha! :roll: ), kid/parent needs to approach TB coach and gently explain and of course, the coach is always welcome to come to her lesson. If she made this high profile team, she must be doing something right at the plate already.

If you are dealing with a huge ego, kid either ignores it like everything else, or says shyly, "will you call my hitting coach and explain that to him? He doesn't get that." :lol:
3Bsnag
 
Posts: 993
Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:39 pm

by Ace » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:56 pm

I'm positive it matters so little, that I promise you I would have taken one look at Ty Cobb and promptly ruined his career, by "fixing" him. One of the few 400 hitters of our life time would have been lost so I could hang my hat on his 300 batting average, and perfect, (to me) swing. The reality is that some kids have faster quick twitch muscles than others, some have stronger wrists, some have better or worse muscle memory, and some have little or no bat control. Its your job as a coach, to figure out what works for your 6'1" 13yo monster, and what works for your 4'9" pip squeek. If you think hitting comes out of a cookie cutter, your wrong. So there is no "right" and no "wrong.
I'm just sayin
"A parent's only as good as their dumbest kid. If one wins a Nobel Prize but the other gets robbed by a hooker, you failed."
Ace
 
Posts: 574
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:58 pm

by anonlooker » Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:58 pm

Ace wrote:I'm positive it matters so little, that I promise you I would have taken one look at Ty Cobb and promptly ruined his career, by "fixing" him. One of the few 400 hitters of our life time would have been lost so I could hang my hat on his 300 batting average, and perfect, (to me) swing. The reality is that some kids have faster quick twitch muscles than others, some have stronger wrists, some have better or worse muscle memory, and some have little or no bat control. Its your job as a coach, to figure out what works for your 6'1" 13yo monster, and what works for your 4'9" pip squeek. If you think hitting comes out of a cookie cutter, your wrong. So there is no "right" and no "wrong.
I'm just sayin


Umm... you must be really old! :lol:

Which might explain why you know so much? ;)
Don't worry about tomorrow. You did that yesterday.
User avatar
anonlooker
 
Posts: 3114
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:14 pm

by MondayMorning3BCoach » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:36 am

Specifically, her instructor teaches her to hold the bat at chest level, and to keep her wieght back in her swing. Her coach wants the bat closer to her ear, and to 'push forward' at the end of her swing, shifting her weight to the front foot.
When fielding a backhand, her instructor wants her to bring her glove back and up to her ear, where the coach wants her to bring her glove forward and field through the ball (when possible). Does this stuff matter, or is it just different styles and she should just learn to adapt to different coaches?
MondayMorning3BCoach
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:02 am

by ChangeUP » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:30 am

Ace wrote:
MondayMorning3BCoach wrote: More often then not, its mental anyway. Hitting, pitching, fielding, its 90% mental, and the rest is in their head.


Does that make it 100% mental?
ChangeUP
 
Posts: 36
Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:06 am

Next

Return to Fastpitch Discussions