ASA suspensions

[movinup]

Sam (or others that read the ASA code),

What does it really mean if a coach is suspended by ASA for a year? I was under the impression that they could have NO involvement with any ASA travel team during the one year period - not sure if the one year is from the date of the incident or date of the hearing. I was also under the impression that no other ASA teams could play a team that is run by a suspended coach and I thought the players playing on his team also risked sanctions. Sorry for the arsenal of questions.

There is an arsenal of ads on eteamz for an individual that I believe was suspended by ASA last summer for umpire abuse. Wouldn't you think the Region 14 staff would unleash an arsenal of responses to these ads and this persons attempt to bypass the system?

Just wondering!

[Sam]

It would likely depend on the actual wording of the suspension in question, if there is a suspension in place.

[Sftbll4ever]

You know, in commie kickball, they used to have a list of coaches and players that had disciplinary actions against them. You could see how long the suspension was for and the reason for it. This way if a coach was not allowed to be near a child or a child was removed for illegal contact etc etc etc, it was of public record.

Unfortunately this is not around anymore, but it would be nice for ASA to have a list that showed at least the suspension, term, and what is involved in it.

[MTR]

Sam (or others that read the ASA code),

What does it really mean if a coach is suspended by ASA for a year? I was under the impression that they could have NO involvement with any ASA travel team during the one year period - not sure if the one year is from the date of the incident or date of the hearing. I was also under the impression that no other ASA teams could play a team that is run by a suspended coach and I thought the players playing on his team also risked sanctions. Sorry for the arsenal of questions.

There is an arsenal of ads on eteamz for an individual that I believe was suspended by ASA last summer for umpire abuse. Wouldn't you think the Region 14 staff would unleash an arsenal of responses to these ads and this persons attempt to bypass the system?

Just wondering!

Actually, there are probably very few suspensions of coaches by ASA, itself.

There may have been local suspensions by a local association. Sometime that is just kept in-house. For ASA to get involved, the commissioner would have to hold a hearing and submit the paperwork to OKC. At that point, the surrounding locals would be notified so they can honor the suspension.

We had a SP player suspended for two years for attacking another player and umpire in a neighboring district of a bordering state, but the paperwork was never filed with OKC. However, once the local was informed and the player was discovered playing on an ASA team here, the commissioner and UIC literally took him off the field in the middle of a game. He then started complaining and making calls up the ASA ladder only to find out that the higher he went, the deeper it got. Eventually, it was decided that since he was still playing ball a year later, his suspension had not taken effect, hence the start date was reset to the day he was taken off the field. IOW, his 2-year term became a suspension of more then 3 years. Some folks just aren't too smart.

[movinup]

MTR you are correct. I am under the impression that this suspension was handed out by either Region 14 or Region 15 staff. The team was from Region 14, but the event was in Region 15. My guess would be Region 15 since I was told that is where the hearing was held.

[SoCalFP]

Movinup:

The penalties of an ASA suspension are just as you stated above, if it was an actual suspension taken by either Region and the process was properly followed. However, sometimes the only penalty is the individual being placed on probation. You should be able to obtain information from your local commissioner on the status of this individual, because it has to be made public if ASA intends to uphold the possible ramifications against teams that may play against his team.