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by Bretman » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:08 am

PDad wrote:I heard many of the local Ohio fans thought the protest was a bush move and at least some of the Ohio coaches respected it and/or learned a valuable lesson from it.


As an Ohio umpire, I have no problem whatsoever with a coach filing a protest. It is a right afforded the teams by rule and precisely what a coach should do when a playing rule has been misinterpreted to the detriment of his team.

Denying a team the right to keep a player in the game that is otherwise eligible- especially a pitcher- could have a profound effect on the outcome of the game. I say, "File away!".

I wouldn't go so far as to call it a "no-win" situation for the other team. If the protest is upheld, the game is resumed from the point of protest. That team can still win the game, so you can't really call it a "no-win" situation because a win is still there to be had.

You could also say that the team that filed the protest has given themselves a second opportunity to lose the game! :mrgreen:
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by nohesitation » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:02 pm

It would be interesting to see the statistics on games protested and the win-loss out come.
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by broadband » Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:43 pm

Bretman wrote:
PDad wrote:I heard many of the local Ohio fans thought the protest was a bush move and at least some of the Ohio coaches respected it and/or learned a valuable lesson from it.


As an Ohio umpire, I have no problem whatsoever with a coach filing a protest. It is a right afforded the teams by rule and precisely what a coach should do when a playing rule has been misinterpreted to the detriment of his team.

Denying a team the right to keep a player in the game that is otherwise eligible- especially a pitcher- could have a profound effect on the outcome of the game. I say, "File away!".

I wouldn't go so far as to call it a "no-win" situation for the other team. If the protest is upheld, the game is resumed from the point of protest. That team can still win the game, so you can't really call it a "no-win" situation because a win is still there to be had.

You could also say that the team that filed the protest has given themselves a second opportunity to lose the game! :mrgreen:


Bret,

Thanks for stating it the way I was thinking it, but apparently, couldn't get from my brain to the keyboard. :D
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by tcannizzo » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:00 am

PDad wrote:...coach smartly files a protest in a close game when he is told by PU he has to change pitchers on his third conference. Protest is later deemed valid...


How was this protest deemed valid?
Or was it his 4th conference?
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by PDad » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:37 am

tcannizzo wrote:
PDad wrote:...coach smartly files a protest in a close game when he is told by PU he has to change pitchers on his third conference. Protest is later deemed valid...

How was this protest deemed valid?
Or was it his 4th conference?

UIC came over while the game was being played under protest and correctly ruled in favor of the coach because the PU shouldn't of forced him to change pitchers on his 3rd conference.

The odd thing about it is they allowed the game to continue after the UIC had upheld the protest instead of immediately restarting it from the point of the protest.
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