Catch or HR?

[hit4power]

Playing ASA

Left fielder goes back to the temporary fence and with both feet on the ground makes a catch and then falls against and then over the temp fence. Catch or HR?

[MTR]

Playing ASA

Left fielder goes back to the temporary fence and with both feet on the ground makes a catch and then falls against and then over the temp fence. Catch or HR?

Don't care where the feet are as long as the fielder does not have any part of their body completely in contact with DBT prior to the catch being made.

Don't know why anyone would question this as a catch.

[INBLUE]

Don't care where the feet are

You had better care where the feet are because it make a BIG difference.

[Bretman]

I think you missed the nuance of that answer...

"Any body part" would include the feet.

[ajaywill]

One more detail that needs to be added here.

In order to complete a catch, the fielder must demonstrate a voluntary release.

In this case, the fielder must hold on to the ball all the way to the ground and release it voluntarily. If the ball is knocked out of the glove when the fielder falls over the temporary fence and hits the ground, it is not a voluntary release and a valid catch.

That would result in a four base award.

[RocUmp]

The rulebook could make a difference.

Where was the fielder when they touched the ball? Where was the fielder when they controlled the ball?

In ASA and NCAA, a fielder can stand on a fallen fence make a catch. The fence can fall towards the field or away from the field. Once a fielder touches deadball area beyond the fallen fence, the ball is dead. If caught first, this is a "catch and carry" situation. If the ball is not caught first, this is a home run.

In Fed, I believe a fallen fence is considered DeadBall Terr.

Rick

[MTR]

One more detail that needs to be added here.

In order to complete a catch, the fielder must demonstrate a voluntary release.

In this case, the fielder must hold on to the ball all the way to the ground and release it voluntarily. If the ball is knocked out of the glove when the fielder falls over the temporary fence and hits the ground, it is not a voluntary release and a valid catch.

That would result in a four base award.

While it is part of the definition of the catch, it is not required. If the fielder demonstrates control of the ball to the umpire's satisfaction, and I admit that may be difficult in this specific scenario, it qualifies as a valid catch.