AlwaysImprove wrote:I also saw this called on a team I was watching once. This may have been legitimate use, if there is such a rule. This team like to throw to first, have the first baseman intentionally miss the ball. At 12U, most girls are taught to take off for second when this happens. This team had practiced this play a lot and had their right fielder pick the ball and throw the girl out at second. Long after the runners stopped running they kept running this play, like 5 times an inning. Either the coaches legitimately thought they were working on something, or they were just dbags. It was making the game take for ever. Umpires rung them up for delay of game.
I cannot site the rules these were being called under. Most of them seemed like BS the umps were making up to serve some agenda. Legit or not, I was happy to see it called on that third scenario.
tcannizzo wrote:AlwaysImprove wrote:I also saw this called on a team I was watching once. This may have been legitimate use, if there is such a rule. This team like to throw to first, have the first baseman intentionally miss the ball. At 12U, most girls are taught to take off for second when this happens. This team had practiced this play a lot and had their right fielder pick the ball and throw the girl out at second. Long after the runners stopped running they kept running this play, like 5 times an inning. Either the coaches legitimately thought they were working on something, or they were just dbags. It was making the game take for ever. Umpires rung them up for delay of game.
I cannot site the rules these were being called under. Most of them seemed like BS the umps were making up to serve some agenda. Legit or not, I was happy to see it called on that third scenario.
What penalty was applied?
AlwaysImprove wrote:I have seen this exact scenario called in the past. It was in rec league. In actually talked to the Umpire trainer about it. His explanation was that umpire 'could' be determining that this was a delay of game tactic, and could have been ruling under a broad unsportsman like delay of game. It was all very wishy washy. It was actually being called on the other team, so I did not care too much, just wanted to try and learn.
I also this saw same justification in from some homers umpiring a game in a small town tournament. This time we were playing a team with a legitimately speedy runner that was stealing on everyone. My catcher was awesome, so she would sneak a throw down to first, and keep her honest. We were almost getting her every throw. Umpires ruled we were doing that to delay the game and gave her second. Later we threw her out at second.
I also saw this called on a team I was watching once. This may have been legitimate use, if there is such a rule. This team like to throw to first, have the first baseman intentionally miss the ball. At 12U, most girls are taught to take off for second when this happens. This team had practiced this play a lot and had their right fielder pick the ball and throw the girl out at second. Long after the runners stopped running they kept running this play, like 5 times an inning. Either the coaches legitimately thought they were working on something, or they were just dbags. It was making the game take for ever. Umpires rung them up for delay of game.
I cannot site the rules these were being called under. Most of them seemed like BS the umps were making up to serve some agenda. Legit or not, I was happy to see it called on that third scenario.
AlwaysImprove wrote:I did not know either team in the game. The girls were next age level up from our team. Someone told me to go watch the coaches cause they were completely over the top and goofballs. That seemed like most of the coaches around, so I wanted to see how they were topping the regularly crazy. They definitely were a notch above.
MTR wrote:AlwaysImprove wrote:I have seen this exact scenario called in the past. It was in rec league. In actually talked to the Umpire trainer about it. His explanation was that umpire 'could' be determining that this was a delay of game tactic, and could have been ruling under a broad unsportsman like delay of game. It was all very wishy washy. It was actually being called on the other team, so I did not care too much, just wanted to try and learn.
I also this saw same justification in from some homers umpiring a game in a small town tournament. This time we were playing a team with a legitimately speedy runner that was stealing on everyone. My catcher was awesome, so she would sneak a throw down to first, and keep her honest. We were almost getting her every throw. Umpires ruled we were doing that to delay the game and gave her second. Later we threw her out at second.
I also saw this called on a team I was watching once. This may have been legitimate use, if there is such a rule. This team like to throw to first, have the first baseman intentionally miss the ball. At 12U, most girls are taught to take off for second when this happens. This team had practiced this play a lot and had their right fielder pick the ball and throw the girl out at second. Long after the runners stopped running they kept running this play, like 5 times an inning. Either the coaches legitimately thought they were working on something, or they were just dbags. It was making the game take for ever. Umpires rung them up for delay of game.
I cannot site the rules these were being called under. Most of them seemed like BS the umps were making up to serve some agenda. Legit or not, I was happy to see it called on that third scenario.
Speaking ASA, NFHS, ISF, etc. this is a weak, BS call. There is no justification for it, under any rule, broad or not. Not much confidence in your umpire trainer, either.