Phantomz08 wrote:What is the correct ruling for purposely dropping a fly ball by an infielder when more than one person is on base and less than two outs?
reconcomm wrote:...I then call time and reverse my called infield fly. Coach protested that I could not reverse the call. UIC backed the coach up. The game moved on without a problem.
Can an umpire reverse the called infield fly? Can we implement the infield fly if not called?
UmpSteve wrote:There's more than one "right" thing to do, because rule 10.3-C (in ASA; there is an equivalent in every rule set) makes it within the plate umpire's authority to "rectify" any situation where a delayed or reversed call places runners and/or defensive players in jeopardy. That means, he could basically do whatever he wants to do; because he can. The rule says so.
There is, in fact, only one smart thingto do. Eat it. If that means admitting your judgment, when made, proved to be less than perfect, so what!! Everyone on both teams had a fair opportunity as long as it stayed an infield fly; no one on either team would know what to do with the call reversed after the fact.
UmpSteve wrote:There's more than one "right" thing to do, because rule 10.3-C (in ASA; there is an equivalent in every rule set) makes it within the plate umpire's authority to "rectify" any situation where a delayed or reversed call places runners and/or defensive players in jeopardy. That means, he could basically do whatever he wants to do; because he can. The rule says so.
There is, in fact, only one smart thingto do. Eat it. If that means admitting your judgment, when made, proved to be less than perfect, so what!! Everyone on both teams had a fair opportunity as long as it stayed an infield fly; no one on either team would know what to do with the call reversed after the fact.
Real 4-man? SS purposefully dropped ball in obvious IFR situation? Sounds like baseball to me, but let's pretend its FP for this discussion, which means more likely 3-man with a UIC at the field to make any protest ruling.Phantomz08 wrote:Bases loaded, 1 out with a four man umpiring crew. Ball is popped up to deep short, no IFF is signaled by any of the blue. Shortstop has trouble catching the ball even bobbling it a couple of times before it hits the ground. SS then picks the ball up and throws home for the force and the catcher throws to 2nd base and the girl that was on second is tagged, after she momentarily headed for third. Initially both were called out but after a long discussion between the four umps, they rule it was an IFF and that the shortstop purposely dropped the ball. Effect was that Batter was called out for IFF, but all other runners were allowed to stay at their previous base. Now there are two outs and bases still loaded.
Was this done correctly?
tcannizzo wrote:To phantom8: No.
In order to "intentionally drop" the ball must first be caught. As stated this was not the case.
Correcting an uncalled IFF would remove any force outs, which in this case would be the force out at home, but the runner being tagged out at 2B - that out would stand. All other runners would be returned to the base at the time of pitch.
tcannizzo wrote:...In order to "intentionally drop" the ball must first be caught. As stated this was not the case.
tcannizzo wrote:... Correcting an uncalled IFF would remove any force outs, which in this case would be the force out at home, but the runner being tagged out at 2B - that out would stand.
tcannizzo wrote:... All other runners would be returned to the base at the time of pitch.