Missing girl

[NoNothin]

Fierce, name one post over 3 pages that doesn't go off topic....thats what makes HB so diverse. Skarp, I have to agree with you, but what is the answer? I was watching a documentary last week about the CA prison system among others that clearly showed criminals like this one do not get rehabbed. Rehab in prison is just a way to pass their time. Prison life for this type of criminal only pisses them off and educates them on how to be a better criminal. They get out just that much better at their trade. Same with drug criminals. They said that 7 out of 10 prisoners in max security prisons are doing drugs in prison. How does that help them cope with life outside prison? I say death by bunga!!! NoNo

Cut that one off and feed it to him. Then do the the chinese water torture deal. Then cut his f'n throat! Child predators are the scum of the earth.

Talk about going off topic. Enough with the politics talk.
Take that sh#t elsewhere.

My profound apologies. Not all of us can think up such thoughtful and informative posts like you do. I'll try to better from now on.

[Blind Squirrel]

Lawyers only work within the framework of the laws that are written. There are too many BS avenues for them to pursue, but they are there, put in place by the politicians

I caught a few minutes (about all I can usually stomach) of Larry King last night where they talked about the legal options that CA has for keeping such people locked up. According to the people on the show, the DA reviewed the case and chose not to pursue those options, despite what the court appointed Psychiatrist had unambiguously written about him. I have no idea if that is an accurate description of what happened.

If anyone has what they consider reliable, more detailed info on how this particular guy got out, it might be worthwhile to post it.

John

[anonlooker]

Fierce, name one post over 3 pages that doesn't go off topic....thats what makes HB so diverse. Skarp, I have to agree with you, but what is the answer? I was watching a documentary last week about the CA prison system among others that clearly showed criminals like this one do not get rehabbed. Rehab in prison is just a way to pass their time. Prison life for this type of criminal only pisses them off and educates them on how to be a better criminal. They get out just that much better at their trade. Same with drug criminals. They said that 7 out of 10 prisoners in max security prisons are doing drugs in prison. How does that help them cope with life outside prison? I say death by bunga!!! NoNo

Cut that one off and feed it to him. Then do the the chinese water torture deal. Then cut his f'n throat! Child predators are the scum of the earth.

Talk about going off topic. Enough with the politics talk.
Take that sh#t elsewhere.

My profound apologies. Not all of us can think up such thoughtful and informative posts like you do. I'll try to better from now on.

What is the answer? An effective justice system. Bearing in mind that no system is perfect (as this thread well demonstrates)...

I spent more than a year a while back in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The entire time I was there I never locked a door... not my villa, not my car, not my office. Why?

Because if you get caught stealing over there, they cut off your hand. Your right hand, the one they eat with. (the left they use for, well, wiping their ass). And they do it on Friday. Not next week, or month, or year, this Friday.

There is virtually no crime over there. The laws are so strict and the punishment so severe (beheading, stoning, etc) that nearly everyone goes out of there way to avoid any possible compromising activity.

Say what you want about it, the system is effective. The people live with no fear of being robbed, beat up, raped, killed, etc etc. There is a tremendous feeling of 'freedom' and 'security' that accompanies that same lack of fear.

Sit back for a second and just try to imagine a life where you didn't have set your house alarm everyday before leaving for work, didn't need an alarm and steering wheel lock on your car, didn't need pass codes to get into your office, etc.

Nearly every facet of life in America is governed to some extent by the ever increasing need for more security and more safety. We are literally captives of our social and criminal justice systems.

Freedom? That's for the bad guys.

[Blind Squirrel]

The decision was made to not make the 13 yr old testify as they felt it would be to much for her. Since they didn't have their best witness they went the plea bargain route.

I also heard on the radio from a family member of his that she recanted the rape allegations and he was never actually charged with rape, instead it was sexual battery. Don't know all the legal differences but I am assuming it is a lesser charge.

What I heard is when a guy like this is about to be released, a Psychiatrist/Psychologist reviews the case/individual and submits a report. In this case, the report was said to have been quite clear that this guy is precisely the type (no remorse, no admission of guilt, etc.) that should remain locked up beyond his sentence, per CA laws/provisions. The DA elected not to follow the recommendations for continued incarceration as specifically provided for under applicable CA law.

Again, I don't know if the above is accurate. And if it is, I have no idea what the DA's reasoning was for his/her decision.

John

[Joe]

The problem isn't the laws , it's the lawyers.

HOLY MOTHER OF EARTH!!! WE'RE FINALLY GETTING THROUGH TO YOU!!!

The lawyers are indeed the problem! Obama, Clinton, Dems who control Congress...they're all lawyers!!!

Who does the American Bar Association rabidly support? The Dems
Who do the trial lawyers support? The Dems
Who's adamantly against tort reform? The Dems
Who's protecting the lawyer's paychecks? The Dems

I applaud you on your recent conversion to our way of thinking. YAY YOU!!!

[Skarp]

Lawyers only work within the framework of the laws that are written. There are too many BS avenues for them to pursue, but they are there, put in place by the politicians

The problem is that we've turned over every aspect of our lives to oversight by the government. Was a time when if a person acted like a jackass, he caught a beating. And if he tried complaining about it...whether to the police, a judge, jury, etc., the response was generally: "well, you were a jackass...what did you think was going to happen?" The net result was that we had far fewer jackasses running around. Nowadays if you give a jackass a beating you a) go to jail, and b) have to pay the jackass money. So of course we get them by the boatload.

Our reliance on government to solve all of our problems has made us weak in the eyes of jackasses and criminals. They know our hands are tied. But supposedly we're more enlightened and civilized now, so I guess that's some consolation.

[as the world turns]

Nowadays if you give a jackass a beating you a) go to jail, and b) have to pay the jackass money.

And if the jackass is a gay black man you'll also do fed prison time as well.

[Joe]

And if the jackass is a gay black man...

Whoa now...

..now you're hitting close to home

[anonlooker]

Nowadays if you give a jackass a beating you a) go to jail, and b) have to pay the jackass money.

And if the jackass is a gay black man you'll also do fed prison time as well.

Unless, of course, you too are a gay black man.

[as the world turns]

Nowadays if you give a jackass a beating you a) go to jail, and b) have to pay the jackass money.

And if the jackass is a gay black man you'll also do fed prison time as well.

Unless, of course, you too are a gay black man.

Then it would be a b*tch fight, hssss and claw