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14u top teams this season

by crankshaft » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:12 pm

steelers530 wrote:I have to give props to Schmick, nice to see objectivity and honesty here. I would love to see this discussion expand to California. The whole planet knows So. Cal is the MECCA for softball (regardless of what Texas THINKS), and most sports period. The best NORCAL teams are down south every weekend, and honestly are not really claimed by NORCAL, because they rarely play there. I do have a kid on a Norcal team, but would love to see what the list looks like for the top 04 teams in California. Well the list with Dirtdogs-Pick and Breeze-Fernald, now that the fall season is complete.


Add what you want!
When you're NorCal teams play SoCal post the outcome!
Universal
Grapettes
Sorcerer
?

;) entertain the competition
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by steelers530 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:57 pm

I am glad you posted this Crankshaft! I have followed this thread and really think it has hit some very important points about what fall softball (showcase) is all about. The top teams USUALLY get it right and "mix it up". As you have also seen that team that only bats their top 6, over and over. We all go to So. Cal week in and week out because your kids, your teams are the best.


It is fall softball, although everyone always tries to WIN every game, nobody should get to excited. At the end of the day PGF is all that counts and we are all chasing the Diamond Sports Hotshots. For sake of FUN, I will endulge a little because softball is over and I am on Vacation.

Based on this fall and the teams we have played, you guys are close from what I have seen.


Mercado/Greg

Angels-Tyson

Firecrackers Brashear-2022

Sorcerer-Schroll

We did not play Batbusters-Flores or Breeze-Fernald, but have seen them several times and both are very good. I have not seen Firecrackers Brashear-Allan or American Pastime-04 play this fall. Don't sleep on the Firecrackers-Redmond team, could be dangerous come PGF time. At the end of the day, if my kids team don't win it, I hope another California team does!!!
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by Schmick » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:58 pm

Thanks for the comments, I'm just pulling stuff from my butt and trying to move the board.


That Dirtdogs Pickering team is very legit. The Yardsharks Lopez team was pretty tough this spring, may have had a rough weekend. A tough No Cal team from the spring was the West Bay Warriors, they thumped my kid in a tournament, but they may habe been mixed with 03's in there cause they had some big girls.

In So Cal I see a lot of these teams and girls week in and week out and can sort of track how some of these girls and teams move year to year.

The Firecracker Brashear 2022 team is a mix of Explosion Smith girls and Firecracker Brashear/Lopez girls with some of the other top Brashear players from Thornburg's and Allan's teams. They're legit.

The Batbuster Flores team is some of the girls he had 2 seasons ago, minus the ones who left last year when his team was handed to Stith Juniorette for a season. They're figuring things out but are very talented

The American Pastime Velasquez 04 team is similar to last season's team except the two class of 2023 pitchers have left and in their places are So Cal As Alonzo's and Firecrackers Romero's #1's. On top of that, Pastimes #1 is back from an injury that had her out nearly all of last season. They're tough to beat with 4 stud pitchers.

The Firecrackers Brashear /Allan team lost their ace to the FC Brashear 2022 team as well as a few other players but with Power Surge and Breakers not being what they used to be most of the top SD area talent is finding it's way to Jeff who will coach them up.

Corona Angels Tyson is a mix of who Marty took from the Carter, Perez (formerly Powell) and FTS (formerly Ollison) first year 14's teams from 17/18 plus a few other girls Marty has brought along, I haven't seen them much but I'm sure, and told on here, that as usual, a very good team

Mercado As 2022 Greg is still the old Mercado As Kinch team from 12U's but handed to Borizelli and Campbell after they left Explosion. Last season they added some of BB Flores girls who didn't stay after Stith passed that team to his daughter and they have been adding to that team consistently since. Extremely talented squad


The '05/2023 teams I'm still getting to know. Very impressed with Mercado Hovermale and Firecrackers Holcomb Knight so far, still waiting to see OC Batbusters Campbell play but I don't doubt that they will be among the top
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by hooper » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:39 am

Fall season has yielded only a partial distillation of the best squads. This is due to 1) the multiple $hungry sanctioning bodies w/in fastpitch. The best teams don't often match up (see early thgiving surf city showcase as prime example of a mess w/the best teams strewn across brackets populated w/some real daddy-dogs). And 2) the showcase format, which at 14u is no longer what it was due to the rule changes (this is probably a good thing), but its time to get back to brackets so the best can butt heads. LakeE, due to the fairly selective invite character had some good matches and IMHO you got a Calif. top 5 of: DDpickering, AMgregg, CAtyson, AP, and Breeze.
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by crankshaft » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:39 am

hooper wrote:Fall season has yielded only a partial distillation of the best squads. This is due to 1) the multiple $hungry sanctioning bodies w/in fastpitch. The best teams don't often match up (see early thgiving surf city showcase as prime example of a mess w/the best teams strewn across brackets populated w/some real daddy-dogs). And 2) the showcase format, which at 14u is no longer what it was due to the rule changes (this is probably a good thing), but its time to get back to brackets so the best can butt heads. LakeE, due to the fairly selective invite character had some good matches and IMHO you got a Calif. top 5 of: DDpickering, AMgregg, CAtyson, AP, and Breeze.


The showcasing Invites for some vs. tourny's happening on the same dates. Start in 14u then in 16u and 18u the invites really seperates the crowd. Leaves regular tournys with average to battle it out for the top of average. (or to prove they are better than average).
Compare it to watching pgf qualifiers where the top teams don't compete until it comes to Nationals.

I like the invites,
better level competing.
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by steelers530 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:28 pm

I have to agree. Colleges don't really care about the 14U's (which is a good thing). I love the invite format (except doing better of keeping 05s away from 04s). Even though there are some really good 05's, hard to match up with top 04s.

Should make for an exciting summer, when it actually means something! Great conversation, thank you guys!! #beatTexas.
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by 05FastpitchDad » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:33 pm

Schmick wrote:Thanks for the comments, I'm just pulling stuff from my butt and trying to move the board.


That Dirtdogs Pickering team is very legit. The Yardsharks Lopez team was pretty tough this spring, may have had a rough weekend. A tough No Cal team from the spring was the West Bay Warriors, they thumped my kid in a tournament, but they may habe been mixed with 03's in there cause they had some big girls.

In So Cal I see a lot of these teams and girls week in and week out and can sort of track how some of these girls and teams move year to year.

The Firecracker Brashear 2022 team is a mix of Explosion Smith girls and Firecracker Brashear/Lopez girls with some of the other top Brashear players from Thornburg's and Allan's teams. They're legit.

The Batbuster Flores team is some of the girls he had 2 seasons ago, minus the ones who left last year when his team was handed to Stith Juniorette for a season. They're figuring things out but are very talented

The American Pastime Velasquez 04 team is similar to last season's team except the two class of 2023 pitchers have left and in their places are So Cal As Alonzo's and Firecrackers Romero's #1's. On top of that, Pastimes #1 is back from an injury that had her out nearly all of last season. They're tough to beat with 4 stud pitchers.

The Firecrackers Brashear /Allan team lost their ace to the FC Brashear 2022 team as well as a few other players but with Power Surge and Breakers not being what they used to be most of the top SD area talent is finding it's way to Jeff who will coach them up.

Corona Angels Tyson is a mix of who Marty took from the Carter, Perez (formerly Powell) and FTS (formerly Ollison) first year 14's teams from 17/18 plus a few other girls Marty has brought along, I haven't seen them much but I'm sure, and told on here, that as usual, a very good team

Mercado As 2022 Greg is still the old Mercado As Kinch team from 12U's but handed to Borizelli and Campbell after they left Explosion. Last season they added some of BB Flores girls who didn't stay after Stith passed that team to his daughter and they have been adding to that team consistently since. Extremely talented squad


The '05/2023 teams I'm still getting to know. Very impressed with Mercado Hovermale and Firecrackers Holcomb Knight so far, still waiting to see OC Batbusters Campbell play but I don't doubt that they will be among the top


05's:

Mercado 2023 (Hovermale) lost a close game this weekend to Explosion Hilliard (formerly Courage) another talented 05 squad. Mercado is all 05 girls, and they acquired the ace P1 from Westbay Warriors as well as the catcher from Brashear 2023 club. They already had two of the strongest pitchers in the division, along with a very consistent girl who was with the BB, and now added another dominant hurler.

Westbay Warriors lost not only their stud pitcher, but also their catcher and SS who are now with Universal.

Universal is a tough squad with strong bats throughout their lineup and every time they come down to SoCal they bring it.

FC Brashear 2023 is strong, they were known as Brashear Oakes last season and compete with everyone.

FC Holcomb Knight has almost all 05's as the sole 04 is in 8th grade, thus, will not have to go dark, and will graduate 2023. FC H/K tied OCBB Campbell 2-2 the weekend before Don Battles after beating Cal Breeze and Universal.

BB Campbell all 05 group that has played a very limited amount this Fall. They played two games at the BBFC On Deck Showcase, then beat Cal Breeze but lost to Universal the same day they tied FC H/K. They might have played all of 10 times this Fall.

Choppers Faussett has basically an all 05 roster as he is currently only carrying one 04 pitcher (lost his 04 P1 to Mercado Gregg) and has just a couple of other position players that are 04s. The bulk of his team was Choppers Seper last season and they were a scrappy group. They too have followed the Mark Campbell model and have opted for more practice time instead of playing time and might have about 9 games or so under their belt.

Batbusters Guthrie (formerly CA Raiders) parted ways with world famous, internationally known Mr. Phil Bruder himself and are still a very well coached team. Their P1 is back, now that they are in 14s, and she is an 04 girl. They also carry two girls that are 12u eligible which will make it tough for them to compete with the older groups.

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by Schmick » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:49 pm

The Explosion Alaan team is pretty tough among the 2023 teams as well. Knocked FC Holcomb/Knight out of a tourney last month with back to back home runs .
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