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Insurance Questions - All Tournament Directors and Teams

by Joe » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:31 pm

HighRoad wrote:Joe you really Blow. You are so stupid, I almost feel sorry for you. What a freaking dumb @ss



Ummm...so does this mean you've given up on arguing the finer points of ASA...or are you just running like a pu$$?

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by softballfan98 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:12 pm

My intention will be to drive down to Burleson, about an hour plus from where I live in North Texas to listen to VTD. I would like to see ASA come up with the same thing.

My girls want to play ball, and frankly we don't care who sanctions what! However, as someone earlier posted, certain groups control fields, while others have a strangle hold on umpires. Houston and Cali have found a way to circumvent the dictators that probably once ruled there area too. I am looking for answers - I want to register my team to play where tournaments will make and umpires with some experience will call the games. I want to pay for insurance once and be covered, as I always have in the past. I want the people in control of our game in this area TO WAKE UP!! Realize it is not about the kings and their little kingdoms, but about the "little girls" the "BIG GIRLS" and everyone in between. Whether it is a college showcase, a local tournament, a friendly, or NATIONALS.

Someone, GIVE US STRAIGHTFORWARD INFORMED ANSWERS. PLEASE!!!!
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by Sheriff10 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:49 pm

Joe wrote:
Dave Devine wrote:There is a lot of rumors and half truths being spread around about ASA and their insurance, website, etc.. I was at the ASA JO Workshop last week and I am here to help you understand. We are listening to our coaches and leagues and getting them what they are asking for.

1. Dallas ASA will have it's own website in a couple of weeks to help navigate our local tournaments and have updates on important events and league updates.

2. We will have ASA Sanctioned Tournaments along with Sanctioned 1 Day Events and Coaches Workshops.

3. Active Deputies for each age division, so they can familirize themselfes with each team and their players.

4. Me or one of my deputies will be happy to walk you through the registration process and help you navigate through the new website. Just like anything new it is hard to know how to use it unless you know how.

Coaches feel free to call me or email me about any question you may have concerning ASA.

Dave Devine
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dallasasajo@ymail.com


Why the campaign against VTD?

THAT is funny Joe. YOU are asking someone why THEY campaign against VTD while YOU have campaigned against ASA for months!!! If VTD is all that, why don't you just shut up and let it speak for itself?
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by pbj2000 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:23 pm

softballfan98 wrote:My intention will be to drive down to Burleson, about an hour plus from where I live in North Texas to listen to VTD. I would like to see ASA come up with the same thing.

My girls want to play ball, and frankly we don't care who sanctions what! However, as someone earlier posted, certain groups control fields, while others have a strangle hold on umpires. Houston and Cali have found a way to circumvent the dictators that probably once ruled there area too. I am looking for answers - I want to register my team to play where tournaments will make and umpires with some experience will call the games. I want to pay for insurance once and be covered, as I always have in the past. I want the people in control of our game in this area TO WAKE UP!! Realize it is not about the kings and their little kingdoms, but about the "little girls" the "BIG GIRLS" and everyone in between. Whether it is a college showcase, a local tournament, a friendly, or NATIONALS.

Someone, GIVE US STRAIGHTFORWARD INFORMED ANSWERS. PLEASE!!!!


Excellent post above. ASA local districts are going to start developing their own websites to post their tournaments. All this bickering might boost the rec leagues though ;) All of these strongholds on the fields I think is going to go away FAST, if these guys can't play nice.
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by Joe » Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:47 pm

Sheriff10 wrote:
Joe wrote:
Dave Devine wrote:There is a lot of rumors and half truths being spread around about ASA and their insurance, website, etc.. I was at the ASA JO Workshop last week and I am here to help you understand. We are listening to our coaches and leagues and getting them what they are asking for.

1. Dallas ASA will have it's own website in a couple of weeks to help navigate our local tournaments and have updates on important events and league updates.

2. We will have ASA Sanctioned Tournaments along with Sanctioned 1 Day Events and Coaches Workshops.

3. Active Deputies for each age division, so they can familirize themselfes with each team and their players.

4. Me or one of my deputies will be happy to walk you through the registration process and help you navigate through the new website. Just like anything new it is hard to know how to use it unless you know how.

Coaches feel free to call me or email me about any question you may have concerning ASA.

Dave Devine
817-690-9553
dallasasajo@ymail.com


Why the campaign against VTD?

THAT is funny Joe. YOU are asking someone why THEY campaign against VTD while YOU have campaigned against ASA for months!!! If VTD is all that, why don't you just shut up and let it speak for itself?


Cherrif

ASA hads its run and completely f'd it up. No campaign needed...they didn't need my help. It IS time for the new guy to give it a try and I'll be happy to let it ride and see what happens.

On the other hand there will be some ASA homers who will search and destroy to keep status quo.
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by dgorsuch » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:20 am

Very frustrating for the teams and parks.
Our park and our teams will continue to support ASA as well as VTD. We will register with both and play both. (More money from the kids and teams). Not sure the 60.00 for VTD insurance makes messing with or wondering if ASA will name VTD as an additional insured.
I feel bad for our ASA reps. They want to do a good job and help the parks and teams but the web sites and ACE certification pieces still do not appear to be working. They are good people who are just as frustrated as the teams are.
Posting/marketing tournaments continues to be a challenge on the ASA side. Our ASA rep told me to send the tournament info and she would post on the ASA Texas site. Who will see it? How can I market them to ensure success?
I feel bad for the umpires. Some are working both (more money from them to register and buy gear), some are sticking with ASA. Our select umpires are sticking with ASA so until ASA gets me a way to post and market tournaments we are shut down.
I am sure it will all wash out in the end.
We just want to play ball!
Hopefully the adults and associations that support youth softball will focus on the kids and teams and get this mess fixed.
In the mean time we will continue to pay more money to more associations and focus on our kids.
P.S. We are going old school. Anyone interested in a friendly March 6?
Doug
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by HighRoad » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:11 am

Joe wrote:
HighRoad wrote:Joe you really Blow. You are so stupid, I almost feel sorry for you. What a freaking dumb @ss



Ummm...so does this mean you've given up on arguing the finer points of ASA...or are you just running like a pu$$?

Blowin' Joe


I'm not defending ASA or knocking VTD, I think they both serve a purpose to some extent. But if you think playing in VTD tournaments or showcases is the ticket to college VS playing in National Qualifiers and National Championships all are ASA sanctioned by the way, then you have no idea what your talking about.

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by Joe » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:21 am

HighRoad wrote:But if you think playing in VTD tournaments or showcases is the ticket to college VS playing in National Qualifiers and National Championships all are ASA sanctioned by the way, then you have no idea what your talking about.


Oh really??? I think you're letting your ASA homerism cloud your good judgement. Just last year, we attended showcases hosted by USSSA and Triple Crown...packed full of D1 coaches. I don't recall any of them looking for or asking about sanctioning before they showed up. Presumably they'll all stay away from Premier's event this year too...cause it ain't ASA :lol:
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by HighRoad » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:57 am

Joe wrote:
HighRoad wrote:But if you think playing in VTD tournaments or showcases is the ticket to college VS playing in National Qualifiers and National Championships all are ASA sanctioned by the way, then you have no idea what your talking about.


Oh really??? I think you're letting your ASA homerism cloud your good judgement. Just last year, we attended showcases hosted by USSSA and Triple Crown...packed full of D1 coaches. I don't recall any of them looking for or asking about sanctioning before they showed up. Presumably they'll all stay away from Premier's event this year too...cause it ain't ASA :lol:


Have you ever been to ASA 16U Nationals or any ASA Gold Qualifiers? If you where a college coach would you rather see prospective players playing in a glorified scrimmage or playing in the intense spirit of competition? Joe you are clueless if you think going to showcases is the ticket to college, those showcases are just one piece of the process. You have an axe to grind with ASA or anyone who disagrees with you, but there is no denying the vital role that ASA championship play is in the recruiting process.

Again good luck at VTD, USSSA, Triple Crown Nationals Nationals let us all know how many college coaches you see out there and maybe we can compare notes later! :lol:
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by Joe » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:10 pm

HighRoad wrote:
Joe wrote:
HighRoad wrote:But if you think playing in VTD tournaments or showcases is the ticket to college VS playing in National Qualifiers and National Championships all are ASA sanctioned by the way, then you have no idea what your talking about.


Oh really??? I think you're letting your ASA homerism cloud your good judgement. Just last year, we attended showcases hosted by USSSA and Triple Crown...packed full of D1 coaches. I don't recall any of them looking for or asking about sanctioning before they showed up. Presumably they'll all stay away from Premier's event this year too...cause it ain't ASA :lol:


Have you ever been to ASA 16U Nationals or any ASA Gold Qualifiers? If you where a college coach would you rather see prospective players playing in a glorified scrimmage or playing in the intense spirit of competition? Joe you are clueless if you think going to showcases is the ticket to college, those showcases are just one piece of the process. You have an axe to grind with ASA or anyone who disagrees with you, but there is no denying the vital role that ASA championship play is in the recruiting process.

Again good luck at VTD, USSSA, Triple Crown Nationals Nationals let us all know how many college coaches you see out there and maybe we can compare notes later! :lol:


Say Bro' Ho

Who am I to keep you from jamming your head up ASA's rectum. If you think ASA is going to get your DD that D1 contract then by all means, sniff around up there and say hello to Gotcher, Devine and all the geniuses who can't even put a decent website together, have yet to communicate an affective game plan for ASA locally and who won't hesitate to spread deceit and lies to protect the old, old way of conducting business.

Me? Have an axe to grind with ASA or you (that would disagree with me)? Damn right...and as long as you keep comin' back fo some mo, I'll be slapping your punk ass all over HB.

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