Bombers Shootout Tournament

[justawatcher]

Dude, how disrespectful of you for making a statement like that. Im sure they will do well, but to write off every 14U team in Texas is ridiculous. Thats disrespectful to every 14u team in the tourney.

Know what youre talking about before you make statements like this. Do your research.

I haven't had any time lately to do research. Could you please tell us which 14U team(s) in Texas can take out the Corona Angels?

[Softball Papa]

It doesn't matter. Any team can be beaten no matter where you're from. Its all about match ups. There will be hundreds of girls from all over Texas playing their hearts out.

If you're not from Texas, don't comment on Texas softball. And if you are from Texas, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[softballdaddi]

It doesn't matter. Any team can be beaten no matter where you're from. Its all about match ups. There will be hundreds of girls from all over Texas playing their hearts out.

If you're not from Texas, don't comment on Texas softball. And if you are from Texas, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Papa, everyone has an opinion. Since I fall in both of your criteria, I will try to elaborate. I am not ashamed of the statement. Having seen both Texas and Cali softball, I believe that Cali softball is at a higher level than Texas JMHO!! With that said, I don't live any either of these states. Used to live in Texas, but DD now plays alot of tourneys in Cali. In fact, we will be in Vegas when you are playing your Bomber tourney and we will get to see teams from UTAH, Colo., Cali, Nevada, OR and AZ

With that said, PGF should not have made the Bomber a qualifier. 3 teams will go to PGF nationals. It is unfair to teams that have to play with players that are ineligible due to high school ball. It is also unfair to teams that are completely dark due to high school ball. Will see how this plays out in 3 weeks.... FYI Corona Angels (Barroso) Chino, CA is listed in the Las Vegas Tournament, so I don't know if they have been accepted in the Bombers or will be in Vegas???? Does anyone know if they will be travelling to Texas or Nevada?

[Softball Papa]

Basically what you are saying is, the teams traveling to the shootout are not good enough to qualify in their home state?

So two teams from that cant qualify in Cali will beat the best Texas has to offer?

[justawatcher]

FYI Corona Angels (Barroso) Chino, CA is listed in the Las Vegas Tournament, so I don't know if they have been accepted in the Bombers or will be in Vegas???? Does anyone know if they will be travelling to Texas or Nevada?

Corona Angels Perez (14U) is the only one listed as going to the Bomber. Not sure where that list came from.

Basically what you are saying is, the teams traveling to the shootout are not good enough to qualify in their home state?

So two teams from that cant qualify in Cali will beat the best Texas has to offer?

It's not unusual for first year California teams to at least think about traveling to other states to qualify. It's extremely stiff competition even for the second year teams. This team is basically last years Artesia Punishers with some great additions from Team Watley, 99 Firecrackers, and Cal Lite. They finished 17th at PGF 12U last year, so it's probably correct to assume that they are not at the top of the heap of all non-invited teams in SoCal. Not sure if they can qualify in Cali or not, but I would imagine they are seeking at least one easier opportunity to qualify and they would be correct.

As you stated earlier, any team can be beaten. We all know how true this is. If you're talking about matchups though, I'm going with the team that finished 17th at PGF and added some pretty significant pieces. Look, there are several good Texas teams going (99 Bombers Prospects or whatever they call themselves, AF Hodo, Elite Papes, Houston Power, Aces, etc.) but other than the Bombers, which one of them has done anything that would indicate they can hang with SoCal? Power maybe. I'm from Texas and I love Texas softball. I think it's some of the best in the country. I'm not going to be ashamed of myself for being realistic and knowing that it just might not be THE best.

[softballdaddi]

Basically what you are saying is, the teams traveling to the shootout are not good enough to qualify in their home state?

So two teams from that cant qualify in Cali will beat the best Texas has to offer?

Basically yes. Looks like you are down to one Cali team. The other is registered for the Las Vegas tournament.
What ticks me off is that Texas has 4 PGF qualifiers. Total of 10 berths. Cali has two qualifiers with a total of 7. Can't see the justice in that..... The ratio of good Cali teams to good Texas teams is probably 6:1. With that said, you won't see the best Cali team, but they are good..... Good luck

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[justawatcher]

What ticks me off is that Texas has 4 PGF qualifiers. Total of 10 berths. Cali has two qualifiers with a total of 7. Can't see the justice in that..... The ratio of good Cali teams to good Texas teams is probably 6:1. With that said, you won't see the best Cali team, but they are good.....

How about the fact that 8 California teams got invites and 2 have returning berths? Texas received 1. That's 17 teams from Cali (potentially more if those who travel to qualify do qualify) to 11 Texas Teams. Pretty good numbers for Texas especially considering only 3 Texas teams in 12U and 14U combined even went out there last year.

[Bigballer10]

Who is the best 12u team in this tournament?

[softballdaddi]

What ticks me off is that Texas has 4 PGF qualifiers. Total of 10 berths. Cali has two qualifiers with a total of 7. Can't see the justice in that..... The ratio of good Cali teams to good Texas teams is probably 6:1. With that said, you won't see the best Cali team, but they are good.....

How about the fact that 8 California teams got invites and 2 have returning berths? Texas received 1. That's 17 teams from Cali (potentially more if those who travel to qualify do qualify) to 11 Texas Teams. Pretty good numbers for Texas especially considering only 3 Texas teams in 12U and 14U combined even went out there last year.

That is too bad.... Would like to see more Texas teams in those age brackets. Understand the cost factor is probably a big driver and the qualification factor too. Forget ASA..... Consider this, most west coast teams try to qualify PGF, ASA, TCS, USSSA and then others, in that order. The season is usually a bust if a team doesn't make PGF.

[justawatcher]

That is too bad.... Would like to see more Texas teams in those age brackets. Understand the cost factor is probably a big driver and the qualification factor too. Forget ASA..... Consider this, most west coast teams try to qualify PGF, ASA, TCS, USSSA and then others, in that order. The season is usually a bust if a team doesn't make PGF.

It's certainly not for a lack of trying. I think PGF had qualifiers in every age group in Texas the last 2 years that did not even make (with the exception of the HS division). Many of the ones that did make, it only took a win to qualify. I like the slimmer numbers and the inclusion of already popular tournaments. It makes sense for a lot of reasons. It's not just at the younger age groups either. Only 3 16U teams and 6 18U teams from Texas attended PGF last year.