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by blackwidow » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:39 am

For those that voted for change, it appears that our glorious leader is continuing the Bush administration policies of signing executive orders that undermine the US Constitution and are contrary to the best interests of ordinary American citizens.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini ... 91137.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkvOIC-hK

Funny how Obama ran on a platform of government transparency yet there weren't many articles about this executive order in the corporate media.
I suppose Obama has realized that it's great to be the dictator of the most powerful country in the world.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/86818/

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by Skarp » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:13 pm

Un-f'ing-believable!

Of course the article misses the truly sinister angle...that having an ally with such capabilities and immunities will be very handy for the friends of internationalism. When you sick the FBI on your political enemies, Americans have the pesky tendency of balking. Who will they balk to here? How will anyone even know where the marching orders come from?

Someday there will be one too many assaults on individual liberty in this country. On that day things will get really ugly, really quick.

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by Joe » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:52 pm

blackwidow wrote:I suppose Obama has realized that it's great to be the dictator of the most powerful country in the world.


Dictator?

Save it for Brother Pat (Robertson)...
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by blackwidow » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:42 am

SInister is the perfect word for this new executive order.

Unfortunately ordinary Americans don't seem to consider the consequences of of these types of actions by our government. They believe that because they are Americans that nothing bad will ever happen to them and that they can trust their government officials to do the right thing.
Nothing could be further from the truth.

In addition to the inter-pol order we have advisors to the President Obama like Cass Sunstein.

In 2008, while at Harvard Law School, Sunstein co-wrote a truly pernicious paper proposing that the U.S. Government employ teams of covert agents and pseudo-"independent" advocates to "cognitively infiltrate" online groups and websites -- as well as other activist groups -- which advocate views that Sunstein deems "false conspiracy theories" about the Government.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn ... index.html

Americans need to quit being divided and ruled by their political ideologies and start to realize that our interests lie in coming together on the fundamental idea that we are all citizens under the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
That these documents are not some obsolete piece of paper that only apply to the founding of the country and are no longer relevant today. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are documents for all peoples of all times.

Larry Flynt (of all people) wrote an excellent article called common sense about the left-right paradigm for the Huffington Post.
Here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-fly ... 64706.html

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by Skarp » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:17 pm

The problem with your kumbaya plan is that a goodly portion of Americans are in fact fascists. These people (incidentally and ironically called "liberals") will happily force their value systems on others, while simultaneously stealing their money to pay for the consequences. They're too historically ignorant to understand that a government empowered to do such things will inevitably come for them too.
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by Dugout Dad » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:27 pm

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by blackwidow » Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:50 am

Skarp wrote:The problem with your kumbaya plan is that a goodly portion of Americans are in fact fascists. These people (incidentally and ironically called "liberals") will happily force their value systems on others, while simultaneously stealing their money to pay for the consequences. They're too historically ignorant to understand that a government empowered to do such things will inevitably come for them too.


While I agree that many people in this country are facists they are not all "liberals" (as people like to use those simpleton labels so frequently.)

Speaking of forcing their value system on others...

Google
Project for a New American Century manifesto...

In September 2000, the PNAC updated and refined Cheney's original version into a new report entitled: "Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces, and Resources for a New Century" calling for unprecedented hikes in military spending, American military bases in Central Asia and Middle East, toppling of non-complying regimes, abrogation of international treaties, control of the world's energy sources, militarization of outer space, total control of cyberspace, and the willingness to use nuclear weapons to achieve "American" goals. This plan by the neo-conservative or neo-con think tank, PNAC, shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power and says the U.S. for decades has sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security, revealing that a premeditated attack on Iraq to secure a regime change was planned even before Bush took power in January, 2001. The lengthy blueprint for U.S. global domination can be accessed at :

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Rebui ... fenses.pdf

This serves the Military-Industrial and Surveilllance complex and all their corporate lobbyists very well. That my friend is fascism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uT7kcAu4i8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sg_NRC8ozk

Instead of singing kumbaya let's all learn to love big brother, eh?
Enjoy those airport body scans being conducted by 10 per hour security guards for your safety. Maybe we could combine the idea with healthcare by having a doctor present at all screening sites to check for tumors, and cancerous growths?

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by Skarp » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:23 am

blackwidow wrote:Instead of singing kumbaya let's all learn to love big brother, eh?

I'm not sure how that follows from my remark. I'm merely observing that if you don't like big brother, you can hardly expect to make allies out of those who love him dearly.

And neither "liberal" nor "conservative" are simpleton labels. They are terms with extremely useful and predictive definitional content. And the simple fact is that those who adhere strongly to the liberal worldview are almost invariably little Eichmanns. They have no problem with shredding the constitution in order to strip you of your freedom to self-determine and force you to adhere to the dictates of their utopian value system. And they have no problem with the most heinous abuses of government power, or the institutions vital to a free and prosperous society, so long as the abuses are done on behalf of the liberal cause. Modern liberalism is fascism my friend.
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by blackwidow » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:55 am

My apologies for misunderstanding your kumbaya remark.

And they have no problem with the most heinous abuses of government power, or the institutions vital to a free and prosperous society


According to your definition, the Bush administration is one of the most liberal of all administrations in the history of the US?

http://www.nypress.com/article-9913-the ... -bush.html



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by Skarp » Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:07 am

blackwidow wrote:My apologies for misunderstanding your kumbaya remark.

And they have no problem with the most heinous abuses of government power, or the institutions vital to a free and prosperous society


According to your definition, the Bush administration is one of the most liberal of all administrations in the history of the US?

http://www.nypress.com/article-9913-the ... -bush.html



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Something I've written many times on here. But he's a rabid constitutionalist compared to the folks in charge now...
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