Hey, This election is not about race, yeah right!

[as the world turns]

Well I am sure that is a lot better than where Bush has had his head the last 8 years. Hopefully we will have a President that is actually voted in! Funny how they are getting away from the electric voting machines that have been suspected of giving Bush so many ghost votes in the last election.

Come on, the hanging chad in 2000 brought on the electric voting machine in 2004, and the democrats still didn't win, therefore the system is flawed (again). What is next, dipping your finger in purple ink when you vote?

What is next, is for the individuals that are in place to serve this country as civil servants to stop trying to cheat the very system that built this country. Hanging chad is just a technical way of cheating the voting system - a hole punched in the card is a vote whether or not if the damn thing is hanging on by a single thread. The system isn't flawed just too easily manipulated when properly motivated, if it went against you what would you be saying then... that it was un-American?

I come on this thing for softball, not to read your political crap. As you know we can go on forever with this.

Where is this political crap being posted? In The Pub, where it belongs. If you don't like it, don't respond and move on. Typical liberal, don't like the atmosphere, they pick up their ball and go home.

[Joe]

"The City of Brotherly Love was roiled in controversy during the 2004 election because of rigged voting machines that showed nearly 2,000 votes for Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry before the polls had opened. A man also used a gun to intimidate poll workers at Ward 30, division 11 in 2004."

New York Times, November 3, 2008

Rigged voting machines like the ones in Philly?

...if you don't want the political crap, why are you spewing it???

[Hitmechanic]

I've only voted thrice...but the day is still early here. So is it better to use the RT or the Synergy during riots?

[as the world turns]

I've only voted thrice...but the day is still early here. So is it better to use the RT or the Synergy during riots?

Well, breakout the DD's catcher's gear as well. I don't think the composite bats will hold up too good. Easton's warranty won't cover head cracking, actually, their warranty doesn't cover hitting a ball either. I'm sure you have an old rec league bat laying around, they still hit and wipe off well.

[ocdad]

I come on this thing for softball, not to read your political crap. As you know we can go on forever with this.[/quote]

Where is this political crap being posted? In The Pub, where it belongs. If you don't like it, don't respond and move on. Typical liberal, don't like the atmosphere, they pick up their ball and go home.[/quote]

Typical liberal? What is liberal, a view that counters yours? Trust me I will pick up the ball and stand right here. For me to say you are some short visioned conservative, would be a little hypocritical. If you think liberals go home when they don't like the atmosphere, it is usually because we are smart enough to know that you have your view on something and that we don't agree, so it is a waste of time to try and convince you to see any other point of view. We don't think that if we yell it loud enough or keep repeating it over & over that maybe the person will see the error of their way.

This is why I replied

White Non-Hispanic 76% 17%

Hispanic 63 % 27%

Black/African-American 12% 79%
Enlisted 67% 24%

Officers 70% 22%

It seems that the only group that supports Obama is the Black/African-American service members. Surely their vote is not based on color instead of issues...I don't understand! See the results in chart format here:

http://www.militarytimes.com/static/pro ... ep_2pp.pdf

So who votes based on race?

It looks like each race voted based on race so what is your point, you try to say it is counter racism, so I could just say I guess all the white individuals are racist because they didn't vote Obama. Your argument is weak. Most people vote based on who they believe most likely will make decisions that will help them or champion policies that they believe in.

[ocdad]

"The City of Brotherly Love was roiled in controversy during the 2004 election because of rigged voting machines that showed nearly 2,000 votes for Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry before the polls had opened. A man also used a gun to intimidate poll workers at Ward 30, division 11 in 2004."

New York Times, November 3, 2008

Rigged voting machines like the ones in Philly?

...if you don't want the political crap, why are you spewing it???

Just showing I can make a comment that will always have a counter argument. I can pull up the Florida machines that had 1000's of extra Bush votes in predominately democratic regions. How the voter registration rolls were purged of valid voters, because their name was similar to person that was not allowed to vote. It goes on & on.

[as the world turns]

Barack's main campaign point has been to bring the troops home from Iraq. One thing we are overlooking by this poll is that the military personnel feel they don't need to be saved by the obamamessiah.

Combined military poll
McCain 68%
Obama 23%

[ocdad]

If you think liberals go home when they don't like the atmosphere, it is usually because we are smart enough to know that you have your view on something and that we don't agree, so it is a waste of time to try and convince you to see any other point of view.

I thought they just went out and found a liberal judge to side with them and overturn the vote of the people .

Not following this one, but I thought the Supreme Court did that 8 years ago.

[Skarp]

Victory by any means necessary is a leftist philosophy. It is the antithesis of conservatism, which is grounded in predictable processes, the rule of law, intergenerational stability and commonalities, etc. Conservatism abhors chaos.

The left has a vision of a better world. They are, as they call themselves, progressive...the rules and institutions of today's outmoded, anachronistic (white, patriarchal, oppressive, yada yada yada) society have little hold over them.

That is why election fraud is rampant on the left...as is criminal conduct in pursuit of countless left-wing political goals. To the left, the ends justify the means. When is the last time you've seen a mob of conservatives rioting on behalf of one of their causes?

[ocdad]

Victory by any means necessary is a leftist philosophy. It is the antithesis of conservatism, which is grounded in predictable processes, the rule of law, intergenerational stability and commonalities, etc. Conservatism abhors chaos.

The left has a vision of a better world. They are, as they call themselves, progressive...the rules and institutions of today's outmoded, anachronistic (white, patriarchal, oppressive, yada yada yada) society have little hold over them.

That is why election fraud is rampant on the left...as is criminal conduct in pursuit of countless left-wing political goals. To the left, the ends justify the means. When is the last time you've seen a mob of conservatives rioting on behalf of one of their causes?

Are you freaking kidding me, this one of the funniest things I have ever seen you post. Just because you try to overwhelm someone by bull!@#$ still makes it !@#$. Your definition of conservatism is very accurate. But for you to state "When is the last time you've seen a mob of conservatives rioting on behalf of one of their causes" I do not even need to look anything up, anti-abortion has ALWAYS been the rallying cry & lightning rod of all Right-wing Conservatives, who bomb abortion clinics, sniper abortion doctors, & who have rioted on numerous occasions. Your eloquent definitions of leftist & conservatism I think is pretty accurate, but the ideology when it comes to politics are completely different and are usually reversed, the right-wing arms believing that these forward thinking liberals should under no means destroy the fabric of what America is suppose to be and will follow the philosophy of the "ends justifying the means"