South Carolina to Lower Confederate Flag

[jonriv]

Sounds like the Democrats just want to get rid of the evidence of their past.

The gov of sc is a republican. It was her idea

[as the world turns]

Sounds like the Democrats just want to get rid of the evidence of their past.

The gov of sc is a republican. It was her idea

Jon, Jon, Jon, Jon, Jon........Jon.....Don't you see the ploy? A Democrat governor raised the flag in the first place, hung for several years, a Republican lowers it, and the media makes it look like a Republican governor is lowering a Republican flag. The bait and switch is amazing. Here is another example, your neighbor's dog takes a dump on your yard, you end up stepping in it, and your neighbor blames you for stepping in it. You end up with dog sh*t on your shoe and you are to blame.

[fastpitchdad05]

Sounds like the Democrats just want to get rid of the evidence of their past.

The gov of sc is a republican. It was her idea

Jon, Jon, Jon, Jon, Jon........Jon.....Don't you see the ploy? A Democrat governor raised the flag in the first place, hung for several years, a Republican lowers it, and the media makes it look like a Republican governor is lowering a Republican flag. The bait and switch is amazing. Here is another example, your neighbor's dog takes a dump on your yard, you end up stepping in it, and your neighbor blames you for stepping in it. You end up with dog sh*t on your shoe and you are to blame.

I gotta ask...why does it matter who is at fault between the two parties?

Seems to me these two have been working together to control this country for some time now while we point fingers at each other in their name and they laugh all the way to the bank.

What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. We don't need a political party, one of the thousands of supreme beings. a preacher, or even one of us sentient, all-knowing human beings here on HB to tell us this.

[as the world turns]

Sounds like the Democrats just want to get rid of the evidence of their past.

The gov of sc is a republican. It was her idea

Jon, Jon, Jon, Jon, Jon........Jon.....Don't you see the ploy? A Democrat governor raised the flag in the first place, hung for several years, a Republican lowers it, and the media makes it look like a Republican governor is lowering a Republican flag. The bait and switch is amazing. Here is another example, your neighbor's dog takes a dump on your yard, you end up stepping in it, and your neighbor blames you for stepping in it. You end up with dog sh*t on your shoe and you are to blame.

I gotta ask...why does it matter who is at fault between the two parties?

Seems to me these two have been working together to control this country for some time now while we point fingers at each other in their name and they laugh all the way to the bank.

What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. We don't need a political party, one of the thousands of supreme beings. a preacher, or even one of us sentient, all-knowing human beings here on HB to tell us this.

Why ban the flag after 150 years? Oh I forgot, the piece of cloth killed 9 people. Since a muslim killed 4 marines and a Sailor, can we ban all things muslim?

[jonriv]

Why ban the flag after 150 years? Oh I forgot, the piece of cloth killed 9 people. Since a muslim killed 4 marines and a Sailor, can we ban all things muslim?

Weak analogy

It has not been 150 years- the Confederate Battle flag started reappearing in the late 50's/early 60's as a protest against desegregation South Carolina is one of the last states to move it from the State House-they did not ban it, just felt that it did not have a place over a governemnt building. The latest incident in Charleston just provided political cover for the legislature to do what should have been done decades ago.It represents an important part of our history and it's legacy needs to be taught, but it is frankly offensive IMO for a State Government to use it as one of its symbols.

This is a great chance for the Republican party to jump on this issue and show that they have been on the "right" side of this throughout history. Historically the Confederate Flag is a legacy of the Democratic party, slavery as well. Abolishism was a Republican cause and was one the root issues that helped form the party

[Pale Rider]

...Guess Old Glory is next huh?
Its assholes using a flag...nothing more...(100% Demorat voters in pic btw)


And do you, in your wildest imagination, think a simple flag will change anyone's hearts?
Stop poverty in minority communities, the shootings in Detroitastan?...

I'm from freaking OH...2nd generation Dutch / German LEGAL immigrant...I live in the Deep South, which I highly regret in the summer...
I seldom ever saw a Battle Flag...more of a novelty thing...now its all over the place with whites and blacks both flying it...This has nothing to do with a flag or someone being 'offended'...It has to do with the definition of a Rebel...

noun

noun: rebel; plural noun: rebels
/ˈrebəl/
1. a person who rises in opposition or armed resistance against an established government or ruler.
"Tory rebels"
synonyms: revolutionary, insurgent, revolutionist, mutineer, insurrectionist, insurrectionary, guerrilla, terrorist, freedom fighter More "the rebels took control of the capital"
•insurgent, revolutionary, mutinous, rebellious, insurrectionary, insurrectionist, renegade "rebel troops"
•a person who resists authority, control, or convention.
synonyms: nonconformist, dissenter, dissident, iconoclast, maverick; informalbad boy
"the concept of the artist as a rebel"

verb: rebel; 3rd person present: rebels; past tense: rebelled; past participle: rebelled; gerund or present participle: rebelling

/reˈbəl/ 1. rise in opposition or armed resistance to an established government or ruler.
"the Earl of Pembroke subsequently rebelled against Henry III"
synonyms: revolt, mutiny, riot, rise up, take up arms, stage/mount a rebellion, be insubordinate
"the citizens rebelled"

[Hurricane]

I gotta ask...why does it matter who is at fault between the two parties?

....it's because the "alphabet" networks (ABC, NBC, CBS, aka "lamestream media") represent the liberal democrat's agenda. If the media was truly the Fourth Branch if would be honest and non-partisan - it would have vetted our current president instead of outward campaigning for him - it would have presented the ENTIRE history of slavery in a different light and how the flag came to be and who wanted it down (not just now but back in the 1970's another Rebuplican tried to take it down.) The current media is a shill for the Democratic Party. Why do you think Fox News is so popular? It gives independents and traditional American values a fair shake on issues...something the "alphabets" do not do anymore.

Therefore, because of the current dishonest media, it does matter HOW this flag came down and WHO did it. It does matter when Americans are only given information/news when it's propaganda for the Democratic Party.

[Pale Rider]

1st Confederate Flag...


Current Ga State Flag...LOL


SO it must just be the X huh?

[as the world turns]

Why ban the flag after 150 years? Oh I forgot, the piece of cloth killed 9 people. Since a muslim killed 4 marines and a Sailor, can we ban all things muslim?

Weak analogy

It has not been 150 years- the Confederate Battle flag started reappearing in the late 50's/early 60's as a protest against desegregation South Carolina is one of the last states to move it from the State House-they did not ban it, just felt that it did not have a place over a governemnt building. The latest incident in Charleston just provided political cover for the legislature to do what should have been done decades ago.It represents an important part of our history and it's legacy needs to be taught, but it is frankly offensive IMO for a State Government to use it as one of its symbols.

This is a great chance for the Republican party to jump on this issue and show that they have been on the "right" side of this throughout history. Historically the Confederate Flag is a legacy of the Democratic party, slavery as well. Abolishism was a Republican cause and was one the root issues that helped form the party

My point was that it has been 150 years since the Civil War, not the flying of the flag. Yeah it's a ban, a progressive ban. Progressives have been going around tearing down the Confederate flag on private property every chance they get - and they get away with it. The PC police has banned it.
No, it's not a weak analogy.
Charleston incident - white people bad.
Chattanooga incident - lone wolf bad, islam not to blame.

[jonriv]

Why ban the flag after 150 years? Oh I forgot, the piece of cloth killed 9 people. Since a muslim killed 4 marines and a Sailor, can we ban all things muslim?

Weak analogy

It has not been 150 years- the Confederate Battle flag started reappearing in the late 50's/early 60's as a protest against desegregation South Carolina is one of the last states to move it from the State House-they did not ban it, just felt that it did not have a place over a governemnt building. The latest incident in Charleston just provided political cover for the legislature to do what should have been done decades ago.It represents an important part of our history and it's legacy needs to be taught, but it is frankly offensive IMO for a State Government to use it as one of its symbols.

This is a great chance for the Republican party to jump on this issue and show that they have been on the "right" side of this throughout history. Historically the Confederate Flag is a legacy of the Democratic party, slavery as well. Abolishism was a Republican cause and was one the root issues that helped form the party

My point was that it has been 150 years since the Civil War, not the flying of the flag. Yeah it's a ban, a progressive ban. Progressives have been going around tearing down the Confederate flag on private property every chance they get - and they get away with it. The PC police has banned it.
No, it's not a weak analogy.
Charleston incident - white people bad.
Chattanooga incident - lone wolf bad, islam not to blame.

What I saw in Charleston was White and Blacks standing and praying hand in hand, condemning a violent act against their fellow citizens. I saw a congregation being true Christians and forgiving the killer. I saw a Republican Govenor call for that flag to come down because it no longer reresents the citizens of South Carolina. I saw a decendant of jefferson Davis call for it to come down I saw the legislature debate and then vote to take it down. I saw the flag come down in a respectful ceremony.

In Chattanooga I saw a terrible act. I have seen Radical Islam and Isis. I saw the Muslim community in many US cities ondemn the act. I saw the family of the killer apologize for the act. Not sure what you saw??


Frankly in IMO the leaders of the Confederacy were traitors- they started an armed rebellion that cost this country more lives than all of its other wars combined and tried to perpetuate an antiquated and cruel labor system. The battle flag has its place in history, but certainly not over public buildings