OT - too much homework?

[etx bd]

I'm with ya and I think some homework is good I think 3 or 4 hours is not. You can teach them to think with out Theodora. I won't lie when I read her report is was very interesing

The strength of the Western canon is that it explores the full range of the human condition, philosophy, important historical events, etc., all of which, once learned, may be referenced to help think critically and well about any academic, professional or personal problem that one may encounter. So Theodora, while perhaps not singularly important, is part of a much larger body of work that is certainly important to know (or at least have passing familiarity with).

Spending a week every year learning about Kwanzaa, on the other hand....

OK I was afraid this would happen someday - Skarp is right. Not just kinda sorta - he nailed it. The fact that we have all but eliminated classical education from public schools has crippled our kids ability to think critically. At one time we required the study of Latin, we memorized Washington's farewell address (we don't even read it now), knew and understood the western philosophies including a thorough understanding of Judeo-Christian thought. We now produce technicians. Folks, specialization is for insects.
My kids are home schooled. Yes they do a couple of days of public school work in 3-4 hours a day. I know they miss out on the socialization that public school students get - the gangs, drugs, promiscuity, guns etc... The public schools are broken... maybe someday vouchers will show up.

Of course the worst part is my DD doesn't get to play HS ball

[Skarp]

Are we there yet????

The education of all children, from the moment that they can get along without a mother's care, shall be in state institutions at state expense. – Friedrich Engels, co-author of Communist Manifesto: "Principles of Communism" (1847) - draft of what became the Communist Manifesto


A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude. To make them love it is the task assigned, in present-day totalitarian states, to ministries of propaganda, newspaper editors and schoolteachers.... The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth. – Aldous Huxley forward to Brave New World, 1946 edition

Getting there, brother. Getting there.

[Skarp]

OK I was afraid this would happen someday - Skarp is right.

lol.

Touché. But if you ever read something that I write and think that I've missed the mark, simply realize that you haven't thought your position through very well.

Home-schooled kids are better adjusted socially than are kids educated by the public system. Kudos to you for being able to pull it off.

[Tucson]

When I lived in IL., home schooled kids could take any activity at the public school that they wanted to. My son did that the last part of his senior year.

[anonlooker]

You know there's been too much rain and not enough fastpitch in SoCal when we attempt to address the Education dilemma.

I won't get started.
I won't get started.
I won't get started.

[blackwidow]

We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.


Wait... I think I'm in the wrong thread.....Isn't this the best album thread?

[weekend4trvl]

I'm with ya and I think some homework is good I think 3 or 4 hours is not. You can teach them to think with out Theodora. I won't lie when I read her report is was very interesing

The strength of the Western canon is that it explores the full range of the human condition, philosophy, important historical events, etc., all of which, once learned, may be referenced to help think critically and well about any academic, professional or personal problem that one may encounter. So Theodora, while perhaps not singularly important, is part of a much larger body of work that is certainly important to know (or at least have passing familiarity with).

Spending a week every year learning about Kwanzaa, on the other hand....

OK I was afraid this would happen someday - Skarp is right. Not just kinda sorta - he nailed it. The fact that we have all but eliminated classical education from public schools has crippled our kids ability to think critically. At one time we required the study of Latin, we memorized Washington's farewell address (we don't even read it now), knew and understood the western philosophies including a thorough understanding of Judeo-Christian thought. We now produce technicians. Folks, specialization is for insects.
My kids are home schooled. Yes they do a couple of days of public school work in 3-4 hours a day. I know they miss out on the socialization that public school students get - the gangs, drugs, promiscuity, guns etc... The public schools are broken... maybe someday vouchers will show up.

Of course the worst part is my DD doesn't get to play HS ball

Vouchers are just another form of government intervention. It will only drive up the price of private schools and eventually wreck the private school culture. Drugs and promiscuity are everywhere. You have done your best now send them out into the world and keep your fingers crossed.

[ECSB]

Is this a softball board? Anyway, I am firmly in the kids are getting too much homework camp. I busted my butt in H.S. and college and got straight A's. My boss drank his way through H.S. and spent the best 7 years of his life in college graduating at the bottom of his class - guess what? He makes more money than me.....its not all about grades folks. Kids could do with less homework and more phys. ed in my book. I got in a fight one year with the principle of the elementary school - I refused to sign the agreement to do the summer packet - and my kids never did it.

JMHO - home schooling is not better. Life is about getting along with people and unfortunately doing things sometimes that you don't want to do. Kinda like softball practice. Who does better in the game? The kids who go to practice....not the ones who practice at home alone.

[Skarp]

Is this a softball board? Anyway, I am firmly in the kids are getting too much homework camp. I busted my butt in H.S. and college and got straight A's. My boss drank his way through H.S. and spent the best 7 years of his life in college graduating at the bottom of his class - guess what? He makes more money than me.....its not all about grades folks. Kids could do with less homework and more phys. ed in my book. I got in a fight one year with the principle of the elementary school - I refused to sign the agreement to do the summer packet - and my kids never did it.

JMHO - home schooling is not better. Life is about getting along with people and unfortunately doing things sometimes that you don't want to do. Kinda like softball practice. Who does better in the game? The kids who go to practice....not the ones who practice at home alone.

1. No, this isn't a softball board. There are softball boards out there. If they don't bore you to tears, I'm sure you'll fit right in. This is the Bucket...where people who share the common interest of girls' fastpitch softball congregate to discuss whatever the hell they want to discuss.

2. So your boss got bad grades, but he makes more money than you, and therefore it's not all about getting good grades. Ummm...okay. Is it all about making more money then? How about personal betterment, and education for education's sake? Does a better education, in your opinion, make it less likely that you will earn more money? Your argument is absurd.

3. So your kid is the one holding mine back because it takes her a month to catch up with the kids who could somehow carve out 30 minutes a day to do some homework over the summer. What exactly is she doing with her time in the summer that makes every bit of it so valuable?

4. Studies show that home-schooled kids entering public high school are far better socially adjusted than are kids who went through public elementary and middle school. Kids pick up a ton of baggage, insecurities, etc., from being thrown in that meat grinder. Not so with the home-schooled kids who enter institutional education at a more mature and confident age. Dem's just the facts.

[NumeroUno]

We need someone to home school heybucket members kids. The Bucket K-8