ocdad wrote:lol...I knew you would come up with anti-abortion. It's a one hit wonder the left never gets tired of playing. But the fact is that anti-abortion demonstrations are exceedingly rare, and violent manifestations of the belief far rarer still. This isn't a surprise. Extremists always defeat moderates...history is replete with examples.
Laugh away...the joke's on you too.
Ok, I already replied to this but it hasn't shown up, so I will try it again.
Ok, just so much to say about this latest comment. How I became this liberal leftist is beyond me, but that is what I am being associated with. I more of a moderate with a left tendency, but like I said, once someone disagrees with your views they become this bleeding leftist liberal, confirmed by all your examples of the violent rioting caused by leftist. Your definition is right on, but argument is weak, because discussing liberal views has turned into left marxism by your argument. Never the center of my discussion, if you go back and read what I am talking about it is a rebuttal to this anti-obama rhetoric, but go ahead and try to discredit me by association of a leftist, popular weapon of the right.
Abortion is always the most obvious as you stated, but it was more for the audience not us, this topic needs little explanation. Not rare, more numerous than the examples you listed as left extremists and always national attention grabbers, because of the scale to the actual carnage inflicted. Doctors gunned down in their driveways, car bombs placed under clinic workers cars, destroyed clinics that have been torched or bombed, workers harrased as they walk to work. You are right there is no rioting going on, because to have a riot, "you need 2 to tango" and very few people are willing to risk their lives.
I have seen little outrages or condemnation by the mass right wing community - they are condemned by the politicans...now before you go and say not all right wing conservatives have embraced this, you are absolutely correct, this applies to both sides of the spectrum, in this matter I will just say the vast majority. You have the Minute Men, who stated they were out to protect our borders but could do little to hide their racist undertones as traveled across the country armed and ready to shoot.
The peaceful means you discuss could be said for most of the organizations that you listed above. How you bring the Black Panthers into the discussion, they were not political entity. Now the KKK is another matter. David Duke who tried to get elected as a Democrat for Louisana, was only able to be a elected as a Republican under the right wing conservative revival. This is the Grand Wizard, who founded the Neo-Nazi movement in this country. I guess these Republican embraced political entities (by the vote) were very peaceful. Not enough room to elobrate.
You are wrong extremist don't always win, history has proven it with Gandhi, MLK, ...pacifist who were considered leftist liberal in their area & era, but history has proven differently. They were believers in the making a stand for what was right & just.
No you are wrong the joke is not on me, because I wouldn't waste all my time replying to these ridiculous remarks & comments if I did not believe that too many times people have remained quiet while they got brow beaten by similar right wing comments, we are the demise to this country...You make these comments and if people hear it enough times and loud enough they start to believe there is some truth to it, so no joke is on me, because I know the truth of what you are trying to do and what it can do. I will always stand up and speak against it.
OC dad, your examples are as weak as your argument. Minutemen are racist because they want to protect our border? Ummm...okay. Neo-nazis? David Duke? These groups are specifically and loudly disavowed by the Republican party. They aren't welcomed into the fold, given a seat at the table, allowed to impact the party platform the way that Code Pink, PETA, BAMN, CAIR, La Raza, and countless other radical (and often racist) lefty groups are welcomed by the Democrats. Lame comparisons my friend.
The Democratic party has always been the party of racism. They were for racism when they fought the Republicans on slavery, and they are for racism now when they favor race-based preferences and consistently use race and false allegations of racism as a wedge issue to keep their base in line.
[As an aside, here is the Wikipedia article on David Duke. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke He naturally started as a Democrat, THE party of southern racism, but later switched to the Republican party, which has been anything but welcoming to him. The party has endorsed every primary opponent he has had, and has issued specific reprovals to him. In short, the party has consistently disavowed his views and publicly distanced itself from him. Most recently, it elected Bobby Jindal, an Indian American, over him in the race for governor of Louisiana. That's your racist Republican party.
]But the issue we were discussing, in case you forgot, is whether conservatives or liberals are more likely to engage in improper and/or criminal acts to achieve their political ends. Any moderately informed and intellectually honest person knows that there is absolutely no comparison between the two.
Forget specific examples, of which I could name hundreds (I believe you are still at one), just look at the demographics. As people get older, have kids, take on real-world responsibilities, become more informed and more sensible, they naturally become more conservative. Younger people are more passionate, and overwhelmingly tend to be more liberal. Older = more rational. Younger = more emotive. Now you tell me, which group is more likely to riot over a political issue. Which is more likely to chain themselves to a tree, or a train? Which is more likely to fire-bomb a car dealership, throw rocks at police, break store windows, overturn cars, accost opposing demonstrators, etc., etc.? And again, feel free to point out all of the examples where proponents of conservative causes have done these things (and yes, fyi, the Black Panthers are proponents of various liberal causes).
BTW, I never called you a liberal leftist. Other than being ignorant or deliberately obtuse, I don't know what you are. And don't much care.
