funtimes wrote:tbjd33 wrote:Many if not most of these issues are grey areas. Most cases both sides have Alcohol or other gateway drugs involved. Both male and female students have sex on their mind when they leave the dorm room.
Now it doesn't make it ok, but it sure makes for a difficult conclusion if a claim is made. State of California is attempting to pass a statute trying to create levels of sexual misconduct. No longer will "no" mean "no". Just isn't black or white. This issue is grey in many cases.
Sad!
Wow, I'm assuming you have a daughter. Unreal how you can state that most cases of rape have grey areas and insinuate that it is the woman's fault. Troubled souls like you are the people who continue to enable these rapists.
Sincerely,
Rape victim and mother of 3 daughters
(No, I was not drunk or on drugs and I didn't have sex on my mind)
Sorry for the crime committed against you... Things like that should never happen, but unfortunately they do. I do have a daughter and by no means am I an advocate for any law/process that enables any Rapist.
With that being said, this is a topic which is a major issue in college. I also look at it from a prospective of both sides having a son just graduating from a PAC 12 school playing baseball. I've seen two athletes where young women claimed rape. One instance the athlete was suspended and it cost him draft status eventually going un-drafted and later all charges were dropped. The young women made a claim and was found telling others she made the claim cause he didn't call her back the next day.
The second claim was dropped because the young women was on her second claim and she too tried take advantage of another athlete. She was angry he never made advances towards her. She was charged for making a false claim and dismissed from school.
Both athletes were greatly affected... I don't condone rape but I also feel it is easy to use this as a tool and young women have no regard for others futures. I've seen first hand the grey area and how young women throw themselves at the young men. It's sickening and beyond sad... It's not a game for either!
All of this potential law/rule change has to do with a growing trend in false or unsubstantiated claims which usually happen against athletes. Schools not having the resources to fully investigate and a society growing without value of others life/future.
Definitely a sensitive subject that needs to be addressed, but can it?