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by bmxbaby » Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:01 pm

Tenshun wrote:Hey Wilson, you're pretty familiar with ranking teams... Where do you think Grapes SN fit in?

If you recall, I had them at # 6 last week... But they are one of the toughest teams to correctly position because they can look very different depending on the weekend.


Can anyone speak about how they are playing these days? Moving up the ladder I thought they had to play against the top teams on the Tenshun list. Last time I saw them they had a couple of tough roster losses and lost pretty bad to that Smash team. Other than that, have they played Breeze, Sorcerers, Red Grapes or anyone up the ladder? Also, why isn't Smash playing in these 12 tourneys?
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by nomoresoftball » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:53 pm

Cause they have been playing 14s getting ready for nationals...
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by bmxbaby » Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:21 am

nomoresoftball wrote:Cause they have been playing 14s getting ready for nationals...



Gotcha, thanks nomore...whats the deal with them? No one really keeps track on the bucket much on 14s like they do on 12u. whats the deal with them? no one saying much about them.
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by nomoresoftball » Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:36 am

They have done well...they have made it to the semis both of the last 2
Weekends...not playing there best but as always working hard...they will be ready for nationals...even though they r not from socal I'm sure they will surprise some teams up there...
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by surfrider » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:32 am

bmxbaby wrote:
Tenshun wrote:Hey Wilson, you're pretty familiar with ranking teams... Where do you think Grapes SN fit in?

If you recall, I had them at # 6 last week... But they are one of the toughest teams to correctly position because they can look very different depending on the weekend.


Can anyone speak about how they are playing these days? Moving up the ladder I thought they had to play against the top teams on the Tenshun list. Last time I saw them they had a couple of tough roster losses and lost pretty bad to that Smash team. Other than that, have they played Breeze, Sorcerers, Red Grapes or anyone up the ladder? Also, why isn't Smash playing in these 12 tourneys?



I can't believe your are still bitter about the grapes after all this time. You continue to bash the coach and the team because you have a personal vendetta cuz you couldn't accept the fact your dd wasn't playing the position you wanted her to play and she wasn't getting much playing time. You continue to try and play it off and play dumb that you are not with the TC Smash, that is after all the team you luckily went to after quitting the grapes. You were lucky enough to hop on with smash cuz you have friends with clout on that team. Fact is, your dd was a reserve player at best and not a key loss. Only key loss for grapes team was losing what many believed was the #1 pitcher in norcal for 12u. What team wouldn't feel the after effects of that. Losing a high caliber player like that has deeply affected these impressionable young girls and they've had hard a time recovering from losing a friend/teammate. A big reason they look different from week to week. These girls are after all just 11/12/13 year olds. One person commented that the red-grapes didn't win this past weeks tournament cuz they didn't have 3 starters, well what would they say if they lost their top pitcher, which the red-grapes obviously had along with their #2 pitcher. I dont think theres any 12u team that had to endure what this team has had to endure this spring/summer season and still remain intact and competitive. Pretty much everyone wanted to see this team fail, I guess the price to pay for being on a top team for all these years. Instead of giving these girls credit for continuing to battle through adversity and all the obstacles that they had to overcome along the the way, you and the bitter people who have left the team, and all the haters continue to try and tear them apart. Truth be told, these girls, their parents and coaches should be commended and are already winners. They stuck it out even though things were falling apart and perservered. They didn't QUIT which is a cop out and try to go to greener pasteurs which is the easy thing to do, especially in the middle of a season. My hats off to Norwood and the rest of the team (parents included), you all stuck it out against all odds and showed the true meaning of TEAM, committment and what the true spirit of the game is all about.



Great tournament this past weekend girls. I know the rankings are just for fun and don't really mean anything except for the chest thumping daddy ball parents. You defeated some very good teams (#5 ranked EC Hot Shots (2x) & #7 FH Gold). That's a true testament of what we all know you can do and are capable of doing. Good luck the rest of the way.
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by beentheredonethat » Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:41 am

They have done well...they have made it to the semis both of the last 2
Weekends...not playing there best but as always working hard...they will be ready for nationals...even though they r not from socal I'm sure they will surprise some teams up there...


Are you bringing your umbrella and boom box? you will surprise many! :lol:
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by nomoresoftball » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:51 pm

What a joke u r surfdude or whatever your name is...I know who u are talking about and why don't u make
Sure they are on hey bucket before you trash there daughter and them also ....these are great people and to call there daughter a role player makes me sick..the only people on smash with some pull are the coaches and
As soon as this kid came out they were impressed...she made it on her own...no one helped her and let me tell you this kid can play...not just one but a few Spots she has
Been very important to our team....they have been on our team for a
Better part of the year now and they r great people who would not waste there time in hey bucket like I would or you...so I know you have norwood and the grapes back congrats
Just remember not everyone is always happy were they r so if they leave they leave I have not heard them say a bad thing about Norwood or the grapes so get your facts straight
And remember all that crap u r saying is about a 12 yr old girl what a joke...and as for the umbrella and the cooler that's a good one is that all you got hater...
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by bigyellowball » Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:53 pm

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG??? :|
The reality is, players leave one team to join another ALL the time.
Teams are dynamic! They change from season to season (sometimes mid-season to mid-season) depending on where players go! That is exactly what makes these rankings "FUN" to read!
Let's keep in perspective the bigger picture here and not lose sight of why we joined this forum in the first place!
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by Tenshun » Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:02 pm

HEY! Look what those SoCal folks have stirred up again! Every time they peek in this thread, Buckets start flying! Behold, the power of the SoCal bucket is strong.

Just kidding.

Seriously, the rankings are just for fun, but I will say that Grapes SN have earned their way into the TDBFR the old-fashioned way... They've earned it. Where they settle in the ranking may be up for some bucket debate, but there is no doubt that they are still a solid team with lots of talent and great coaching.

Stuck together and have grown together as a team. Sure they've taken some lumps, but all good teams do.

The season is almost over and at the end of the day, I think the team has won more than they lost. And I'm not talking about games (or players).

-Tenshun
No courage. No game.
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by bmxbaby » Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:23 pm

surfrider wrote:
bmxbaby wrote:
Tenshun wrote:Hey Wilson, you're pretty familiar with ranking teams... Where do you think Grapes SN fit in?

If you recall, I had them at # 6 last week... But they are one of the toughest teams to correctly position because they can look very different depending on the weekend.


Can anyone speak about how they are playing these days? Moving up the ladder I thought they had to play against the top teams on the Tenshun list. Last time I saw them they had a couple of tough roster losses and lost pretty bad to that Smash team. Other than that, have they played Breeze, Sorcerers, Red Grapes or anyone up the ladder? Also, why isn't Smash playing in these 12 tourneys?



I can't believe your are still bitter about the grapes after all this time. You continue to bash the coach and the team because you have a personal vendetta cuz you couldn't accept the fact your dd wasn't playing the position you wanted her to play and she wasn't getting much playing time. You continue to try and play it off and play dumb that you are not with the TC Smash, that is after all the team you luckily went to after quitting the grapes. You were lucky enough to hop on with smash cuz you have friends with clout on that team. Fact is, your dd was a reserve player at best and not a key loss. Only key loss for grapes team was losing what many believed was the #1 pitcher in norcal for 12u. What team wouldn't feel the after effects of that. Losing a high caliber player like that has deeply affected these impressionable young girls and they've had hard a time recovering from losing a friend/teammate. A big reason they look different from week to week. These girls are after all just 11/12/13 year olds. One person commented that the red-grapes didn't win this past weeks tournament cuz they didn't have 3 starters, well what would they say if they lost their top pitcher, which the red-grapes obviously had along with their #2 pitcher. I dont think theres any 12u team that had to endure what this team has had to endure this spring/summer season and still remain intact and competitive. Pretty much everyone wanted to see this team fail, I guess the price to pay for being on a top team for all these years. Instead of giving these girls credit for continuing to battle through adversity and all the obstacles that they had to overcome along the the way, you and the bitter people who have left the team, and all the haters continue to try and tear them apart. Truth be told, these girls, their parents and coaches should be commended and are already winners. They stuck it out even though things were falling apart and perservered. They didn't QUIT which is a cop out and try to go to greener pasteurs which is the easy thing to do, especially in the middle of a season. My hats off to Norwood and the rest of the team (parents included), you all stuck it out against all odds and showed the true meaning of TEAM, committment and what the true spirit of the game is all about.



Great tournament this past weekend girls. I know the rankings are just for fun and don't really mean anything except for the chest thumping daddy ball parents. You defeated some very good teams (#5 ranked EC Hot Shots (2x) & #7 FH Gold). That's a true testament of what we all know you can do and are capable of doing. Good luck the rest of the way.



You know surfnturf you owe me some money for that psych session! Im glad you got that off your chest though. you ok??Let it out...Go ahead... :lol: .No my kid doesn't play over there...too far..as for the Norwood team you make it sound like I said they werent good...fact is they are pretty good! Despite the changes. Hard working kids! They dont quit! Teams get beat and win and get beat again all the time. Dont make it personal! they are just kids. whats all the hubub trashin another kid like that! ....dude....woooosaww!

thanks for the update guys.
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