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Changes in the 14u world?

by dittoz » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:10 pm

Hearing a lot of rumors of players changing teams during/after the fall in NorCal 14's.
Pitchers moving, leadoffs moving, even a few coaches bouncing around...

Any confirmed moves and who's got ~the~ 14u teams to beat this coming spring ?
Being from NorCal, what do I know anyway???
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by instiga8tor » Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:59 am

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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by dittoz » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:50 pm

Thanks for the nonsense remark...
Being from NorCal, what do I know anyway???
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by instiga8tor » Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:39 pm

Intiga8tor has done some research and found no nonsense in that reply. The same 3 or 4 top 14u teams in the Fall will be the same top 3-4 teams in the Summer. Did any of the top 14u teams lose significant players?


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by Instig8or » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:29 am

The original Instig8or finds that the imposter has little knowledge of local team information, yet continues to comment. Further, as said already, Imposter seems to make comments contrary to information legitimately requested by the OP.

Instig8or is not surprised however, as Imposter clearly remains irrelevant based on prior postings.
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by softballjunky12 » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:53 am

This is what I am aware of in the South Bay:

Sting -Regardless of any changes will be a strong team
Sharks- Lindsey- looks to lost 3, picked up 2 including speed from last spring
Sharks- Lloyd-???
Strikkers- looks to made some roster changes so should be a different team in spring
Stars- No Major Roster changes that I am aware of
Diamonds- brand new team.. I "believe" players are coming from a local rec team.
Storm-???
Legends- No major roster changes that I am aware of
Nuggets- 2 teams- 9 new players on Brown (others came from fall team) and other team picked up 3.

Most of the new players that I have seen added to the rosters aren't from one of the above team. So to answer your question, I haven't seen lots of existing "A" players jumping from team to team but have a good share of unknown players added to rosters, so will have to wait and see the impact they bring.



Dittoz-- what you seeing up north?
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by dittoz » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:33 pm

Dittoz sees only a little thus far (sorry, couldn't resist the 3rd party stuff - seems to be "IN" :) )

For the Sac/Stockton area:

At the 12u level;
In Sacto, Lady Magic continues to be a viable force - relatively stable roster.
Other possible challengers include Comets-Loomis who were a late comer to the party in F'09 but continue to build and will challenge many with strong pitching and experienced coaching.

In 14's Lady magic again continues to be a threat to take their 3rd Metro Championship in as many years. They've picked up only a couple new players and are one of the early favorites to take the national bid again this season as strong pitching and situational play leads them well.
Don't leave both 14u Breeze teams out of the running in Sac metro 14's though. Breeze-95 real strength continues to be in pitching. While not completely dominant, it's more than sufficient for the Sac area and keeps the in many games. Breeze-96 continues their run as hitting powers and with good coaching, they too will ruffle more than a few feathers. Both Breeze teams need to play in higher level tournaments though, and until they do, will remain unproven.
The final piece of the Sac 14 metro puzzle can be found in TNT. While still looking for a strong #2 in the circle, they are formidable as they stand and are probably the most overlooked contender for the Sac bid to Moline in August. They'll play mostly 16s, and return in June for 14 metros.
To the South, look for Grapettes-Reid to be the early favorites in the Stockton-area metro. The other 14 Grapettes team is in a serious rebuilding phase after a lot of unfortunate publicity on this site, and the departure of 2 of their 3 pitchers Along with their leadoff hitter and their #2 catcher. They still retain a pitcher/catcher combo who will dominate many teams but elsewhere, only their little speedster in CF still remains from prior seasons. With power hitters behind the plate and on the corners combined with the new girls they may yet surprise many.

R/R 14's are a younger team and will be competitive, but still seek that elusive #1 pitcher.

All American 14's are also young and will be a force in 2011.

In 16's, Breeze-16 lost a few of their bigger bats and sat least one of their top pitchers and are struggling to maintain dominance from last year's 14u National team. Foothill Gold lost one of their two pitchers in the fall and will likely struggle locally on Sundays. Comets 16u will remain strong. Hype 16 may surprise, but lost several after the fall season including at least one in the circle and may see some new additions after HS ends. Heat 16-Menefee picked up several new and retain 2 of their pitchers from fall. Hitting will remain a weak point as they look for leadership.

To the south, AASA 16s are in a rebuilding phase and in search of pitching.
Grapes 16 - Bilbao gained a high % hitting backup catcher / Util during the fall, but still seeks additional pitching. Should be a viable contender in the spring if pitching holds up. Also look for the new Outlaws team to surprise many. Based further south, they have excellent coaching and took some quality players from many area teams after last summer.

Most of the rest of the Sac and Stockton-area teams are seeing the usual jumping of players amongst teams but the strength seems to remain elusive for any single team...
Being from NorCal, what do I know anyway???
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by Dropn N » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:49 pm

dittoz wrote:Dittoz sees only a little thus far (sorry, couldn't resist the 3rd party stuff - seems to be "IN" :) )

For the Sac/Stockton area:

At the 12u level;
In Sacto, Lady Magic continues to be a viable force - relatively stable roster.
Other possible challengers include Comets-Loomis who were a late comer to the party in F'09 but continue to build and will challenge many with strong pitching and experienced coaching.

In 14's Lady magic again continues to be a threat to take their 3rd Metro Championship in as many years. They've picked up only a couple new players and are one of the early favorites to take the national bid again this season as strong pitching and situational play leads them well.
Don't leave both 14u Breeze teams out of the running in Sac metro 14's though. Breeze-95 real strength continues to be in pitching. While not completely dominant, it's more than sufficient for the Sac area and keeps the in many games. Breeze-96 continues their run as hitting powers and with good coaching, they too will ruffle more than a few feathers. Both Breeze teams need to play in higher level tournaments though, and until they do, will remain unproven.
The final piece of the Sac 14 metro puzzle can be found in TNT. While still looking for a strong #2 in the circle, they are formidable as they stand and are probably the most overlooked contender for the Sac bid to Moline in August. They'll play mostly 16s, and return in June for 14 metros.
To the South, look for Grapettes-Reid to be the early favorites in the Stockton-area metro. The other 14 Grapettes team is in a serious rebuilding phase after a lot of unfortunate publicity on this site, and the departure of 2 of their 3 pitchers Along with their leadoff hitter and their #2 catcher. They still retain a pitcher/catcher combo who will dominate many teams but elsewhere, only their little speedster in CF still remains from prior seasons. With power hitters behind the plate and on the corners combined with the new girls they may yet surprise many.

R/R 14's are a younger team and will be competitive, but still seek that elusive #1 pitcher.

All American 14's are also young and will be a force in 2011.

In 16's, Breeze-16 lost a few of their bigger bats and sat least one of their top pitchers and are struggling to maintain dominance from last year's 14u National team. Foothill Gold lost one of their two pitchers in the fall and will likely struggle locally on Sundays. Comets 16u will remain strong. Hype 16 may surprise, but lost several after the fall season including at least one in the circle and may see some new additions after HS ends. Heat 16-Menefee picked up several new and retain 2 of their pitchers from fall. Hitting will remain a weak point as they look for leadership.

To the south, AASA 16s are in a rebuilding phase and in search of pitching.
Grapes 16 - Bilbao gained a high % hitting backup catcher / Util during the fall, but still seeks additional pitching. Should be a viable contender in the spring if pitching holds up. Also look for the new Outlaws team to surprise many. Based further south, they have excellent coaching and took some quality players from many area teams after last summer.

Most of the rest of the Sac and Stockton-area teams are seeing the usual jumping of players amongst teams but the strength seems to remain elusive for any single team...



I thought the post was Changes In The 14U world..sounds like your talking about the whole world!
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by softballjunky12 » Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:30 pm

Where did the 14s Lady Magic and TNT play this past fall? Don't recall seeing them in Stockton :?

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by dittoz » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:51 pm

You're right Dropn... was just responding to his question...

Lady magic 14s were around. Saw them at Arnaiz and 'around". They played down south a time or two and did pretty well too.

TNT was pretty much strictly in the Sac area except for a couple of the smaller Grapes tourneys.
They need to step up and play in the more crowded tournies to the south with the big kids this season!
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