QUALIFING out of STATE......HOW DID THEY DO

[Fasterpitch]

Still funny.....

First 18U does not count in Cali
( In Texas we do not play it either, but it sure counts for some)

Now 16U does not count in Cali
( If you have ever been, you would know it counts. more or just about the same amount of college coachs at 16U, as Gold. )

But you sure seem to claim'em all when you dominate in it.

If every girl in Cali goes from 14U to 18 Gold then where did they all go to nationals at...

The Lady Magic and alot of the other Cali teams in KY sure looked good to me. I sure did not want to draw them in the first round. So what your saying, is they are girls that did not make Gold teams. They are second tier California players, not good enough for Gold. I do not believe that...




This thread went crazy a long time ago. Hard for me to read the West Coast egos of some ( not all) and not respond.

[anonlooker]

Still funny.....

But at least we're back on topic!! (kind of, anyway

First 18U does not count in Cali
( In Texas we do not play it either, but it sure counts for some)

Cali is a place in Columbia know for cocaine production. I'm pretty sure you mean CA, or California, or even SoCal. (How may times do I have to tell people this?)

Now 16U does not count in Cali
( If you have ever been, you would know it counts. more or just about the same amount of college coachs at 16U, as Gold. )

No one said 16U it doesn't count. Those girls work as hard as girls in any other division. Of course it counts.

But you sure seem to claim'em all when you dominate in it.

Nothing wrong with being proud. And note that no one from CA dis-claimed the teams the California.


If every girl in Cali goes from 14U to 18 Gold then where did they all go to nationals at...

Not sure what you're asking, but I 'll take a stab - this year they went to Indiana, Alabama, Texas, etc.

The Lady Magic and alot of the other Cali teams in KY sure looked good to me. I sure did not want to draw them in the first round. So what your saying, is they are girls that did not make Gold teams. They are second tier California players, not good enough for Gold. I do not believe that...

I imagine you weren't thrilled to draw any of them in any round.

You don't have to believe it, but the fact is that most of the very best 16U eligible players in SoCal are playing up.

For the ones playing in 16U, I wouldn't necessarily categorize them as second tier, although in some cases it would be true that they didn't make it on an 18G team. There are other valid reasons some kids decide to play 16U. For one, there are some very, very good coaches here in 16U. And like you said, 16's are getting more and more college exposure, in part because so many of the 18's are already signed. And don't forget the girls who could be playing 14U but are challenging themselves by playing up in 16's.

No matter how you categorize them or why they play 16U, they still rank among the best teams in the country, and we in California are proud of that.

This thread went crazy a long time ago. Hard for me to read the West Coast egos of some ( not all) and not respond.

It's not ego. When you listed the results in 16U and noted that only 4 of the top 20 teams were from California, you implied that CA lacks quality 16U players, and nothing could be further from the truth.

[Skarp]

Hate to knock this riveting thread off course again, but I have to make a minor edit to a previous post.

Just a little long winded...................

Ancient Chinese Proverb: better long on wind than short on brain.

But I suppose neither is better yet. Lucky for me the former is correctable...too bad for you the latter is not.

Okay, all better now. Carry on.

[narent]

16U is a nothing division in California. Everyone knows that (except, apparently, you). All the top players and everyone else good enough move directly from 14 to 18 and 18g. Not an excuse...just a fact. Deal with it.

I for one am willing to concede the fact that California has produced and will continue to produce the best players in the country. That's just the way it is and there are no point arguing it. California is what the rest of us should be modeling our own programs after.
I would kill to give my DD the opportunity to play against some of the best teams in the country ON A WEEKLY BASIS. As it is, here in Northern Mississippi, we're lucky to get twelve teams for a tournament. We would run-rule half of them and the other half are the same ones we see over and over again throughout the year. We've had to travel to Birmingham, Vicksburg and Jonesboro, AR just to see some different teams. Plus, you have such a high rate of turnover that it's almost impossible to obtain a cohesive team on a yearly basis. My DD's travel team (12U this past summer) has had to recuit as far as 75 miles away in order to build a competitive team that could hang with the better teams in the USFA "B" World Series.

Don't get me wrong, fastpitch is growing quickly in this area. I just think that we are fooling ourselves if we think that our best teams could even "keep it close" against the top California clubs right now. I can count on one hand (after a gruesome accident that left me with only a thumb) the number of 18U Gold organizations in our area that have produced any Division I players.

But there's no use pouting about it people. Don't hate on CA. Strive to be better and the entire fastpitch community will be the beneficiary. Find a good coach and stick with him/her. Don't be constantly looking for greener pastures. Help your team develop a reputation as "the team to beat" in your area. If you can't get on "that team", find the next best and work to build that program into a contender.

My hat's off to California, especially after looking at the results of the 12U nationals in Alabama and seeing teams from other states that beat us up pretty bad getting beaten by teams from CA. Their teams are just better, folks. It's an undeniable truth.

[dittoz]

Okay - things I've gotten from this post;

1) Most folks generally agree that many of the stronger softball programs come out of Southern California (Cali, LA, SoCal, the Left Coast, Mars...)

2) Religion is not a good thing to discuss in an internet forum unless your motive is to completely hijack a post

3) Not everyone knows what a SHIM is

4) Not everyone SHOULD know what a SHIM is

5) Sam is an intelligent individual, but twisted

6) Skarp is a very intelligent individual as well, but somewhat twisted and angry

and finally...

7) Most folks really don't appear to care who qualified where!

[Skarp]

Skarp is a very intelligent individual as well, but somewhat twisted and angry

Well I wasn't angry before, but now...

[artomatic]

3) Not everyone knows what a SHIM is

4) Not everyone SHOULD know what a SHIM is

I can tell you first hand, that after that ghastly thing plopped itself down in our bleachers, we were all scarred for life...

[uno tres]

Skarp is a very intelligent individual as well, but somewhat twisted and angry

Well I wasn't angry before, but now...

..but at least he said you were "very intelligent"...Sam is just "intelligent"...dittoz also forgot to add #8...narent would sell his soul to Lucifer himself to be livin' and playin' in the OC every Sunday!!

[SSdad]

3) Not everyone knows what a SHIM is

4) Not everyone SHOULD know what a SHIM is

I can tell you first hand, that after that ghastly thing plopped itself down in our bleachers, we were all scarred for life...

I might be scarred for the after life too......."NICE CALL BLUE"

[artomatic]

I might be scarred for the after life too......."NICE CALL BLUE"

yeah, and it's voice sounded something like Robert on "Everybody Loves Raymond"...
dammit, those repressed memories are all flooding back!