PGF 2012 12U

[ridinsuicide]

Guys, my point was not that I am worried about scouts at this age, it was that California is a long way to travel to play 15-20 teams from the same area that play each other all year long. Look, both sides of this is obviously an opinion and to each his own. I have to admit, a big part of me is bummed that the traditional powerhouse teams won't be in Moline, that is our reason for going. I promise I am not taking away from the competition of the teams in Cali, they are why we are going to Moline!!...lol. Just stinks they won't be there as we feel we are ready to compete at that level!! I'm sure some that know of us would agree.... Anyway, at the end of the day I wish luck to all teams in whichever they decide to play, be it PGF or ASA for whatever reason!!!!

[BOLTS99]

ridinsuicide,

We would love to come if we can. Go to bolts99.com and check out our schedule. If we are open that date send me the info at jay.roberson@chart-ind.com and i'll try to make it work. We love playing you guys. You have a great team and your group is very fun to hangout with.

Jay

[Battle]

Guys, my point was not that I am worried about scouts at this age, it was that California is a long way to travel to play 15-20 teams from the same area that play each other all year long. Look, both sides of this is obviously an opinion and to each his own. I have to admit, a big part of me is bummed that the traditional powerhouse teams won't be in Moline, that is our reason for going. I promise I am not taking away from the competition of the teams in Cali, they are why we are going to Moline!!...lol. Just stinks they won't be there as we feel we are ready to compete at that level!! I'm sure some that know of us would agree.... Anyway, at the end of the day I wish luck to all teams in whichever they decide to play, be it PGF or ASA for whatever reason!!!!

I agree with you, it is a bummer that Nationals are now split. There is no over all champion now because of it. You could look at it this way...you could probably go to Cali at any time and play nationally competive teams but you only have one chance a year to play the US diversed ASA Nationals where the entire country comes together. There is no softball experience that compares to it.

[ridinsuicide]

Jay,

I am almost positive that is the email I sent the invitation to. I did not check your schedule, but I did include dates in the email. It is a USFA sanctioned tourney so it is also on the website!! April 13th-15th, tourney name is "bringin the heat"...please check it out, we would love to have you guys!! Not many teams registered yet, but have SEVERAL invites to TOP organizations in the south. Lots from Tx too. We have verbal commits from Tx Elite and Houston Power. Lots of the teams are waiting to see who signs up, but we r expecting it to be a very competitive tourney. Hope to see you guys....

[fastpitchdad05]

Guys, my point was not that I am worried about scouts at this age, it was that California is a long way to travel to play 15-20 teams from the same area that play each other all year long. Look, both sides of this is obviously an opinion and to each his own. I have to admit, a big part of me is bummed that the traditional powerhouse teams won't be in Moline, that is our reason for going. I promise I am not taking away from the competition of the teams in Cali, they are why we are going to Moline!!...lol. Just stinks they won't be there as we feel we are ready to compete at that level!! I'm sure some that know of us would agree.... Anyway, at the end of the day I wish luck to all teams in whichever they decide to play, be it PGF or ASA for whatever reason!!!!

I agree with you, it is a bummer that Nationals are now split. There is no over all champion now because of it. You could look at it this way...you could probably go to Cali at any time and play nationally competive teams but you only have one chance a year to play the US diversed ASA Nationals where the entire country comes together. There is no softball experience that compares to it.

Yeah it's a bummer that ASA didn't listen to its customers and is now competing (and quickly losing) to PGF.

[Battle]

Guys, my point was not that I am worried about scouts at this age, it was that California is a long way to travel to play 15-20 teams from the same area that play each other all year long. Look, both sides of this is obviously an opinion and to each his own. I have to admit, a big part of me is bummed that the traditional powerhouse teams won't be in Moline, that is our reason for going. I promise I am not taking away from the competition of the teams in Cali, they are why we are going to Moline!!...lol. Just stinks they won't be there as we feel we are ready to compete at that level!! I'm sure some that know of us would agree.... Anyway, at the end of the day I wish luck to all teams in whichever they decide to play, be it PGF or ASA for whatever reason!!!!

I agree with you, it is a bummer that Nationals are now split. There is no over all champion now because of it. You could look at it this way...you could probably go to Cali at any time and play nationally competive teams but you only have one chance a year to play the US diversed ASA Nationals where the entire country comes together. There is no softball experience that compares to it.

Yeah it's a bummer that ASA didn't listen to its customers and is now competing (and quickly losing) to PGF.

ASA really hasn't lost anything when you take a closer look.

[fastpitchdad05]

Guys, my point was not that I am worried about scouts at this age, it was that California is a long way to travel to play 15-20 teams from the same area that play each other all year long. Look, both sides of this is obviously an opinion and to each his own. I have to admit, a big part of me is bummed that the traditional powerhouse teams won't be in Moline, that is our reason for going. I promise I am not taking away from the competition of the teams in Cali, they are why we are going to Moline!!...lol. Just stinks they won't be there as we feel we are ready to compete at that level!! I'm sure some that know of us would agree.... Anyway, at the end of the day I wish luck to all teams in whichever they decide to play, be it PGF or ASA for whatever reason!!!!

I agree with you, it is a bummer that Nationals are now split. There is no over all champion now because of it. You could look at it this way...you could probably go to Cali at any time and play nationally competive teams but you only have one chance a year to play the US diversed ASA Nationals where the entire country comes together. There is no softball experience that compares to it.

Yeah it's a bummer that ASA didn't listen to its customers and is now competing (and quickly losing) to PGF.

ASA really hasn't lost anything when you take a closer look.

Perhaps you're right if you're saying that they're still getting the same number of teams to go to their tournaments and therefore still making the same money.

Yeah they're not losing a thing since the money is what's important to them and not the quality of teams at their tournaments.

[artomatic]

Now, with that being said, if you garaunteed me there would be 75-100 scouts at 12U PGF "Nationals" then MAYBE it would be worth it. Otherwise, that is a LOOOOONG way to go to play a regular tournament.

Someone mentioned that there was a post talking about scouts at a 12U tournament, but I had to see it for myself.
So, there might be some scouts at the 12U tournament, but they will split time between the 10U tournament, or send their assistants to the 10U tournament to make sure they are represented...
Come on man, in 12U it's still about the sweet playground next to the fields that has the big slide, and choosing between sour skittles or gummy worms.
Don't force feed the whole recruiting process.
Trust me, it will be here and gone in a flash...

[bugs]

geez art, the guy was joking.

The reality of all this is that no matter what all the talk is about there will never be a true National Champion until ASA aand Premier unite. What do think the chances of that are. Nill and none as it is about the money, for BOTH

[3'sDad]

9 pages and counting on the 12U tournament, 4 pages on 14U and 11 pages of discussion & review of the 16 & 18 y/o event last season.

12 U guys. National tournament is important to all. Would I have preferred to attend a naional in SoCal - YES - the weather is better, more activities outside of softball, easy flights. Its about the experience at this age.