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by jonriv » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:24 am

Strange bed-fellows(no jokes please :D )

It appears the ACLU is backing Chi-Fil-A and telling the mayors to bud out.....

http://consumerist.com/2012/07/aclu-to- ... t-it.html/
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by GIMNEPIWO » Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:30 am

We are in Lynchburg VA., which is in some weird way a Gay friendly city in spite of uber conservative Liberty University, which does not even allow hetero couples to hold hands ... According to DD, at the Chick Fil A near the University, openly Gay couples have been refused service ... She did not see this first hand, but was told by a 'guy' friend who was at the place with two of their gay female friends ...

And I respect the CEO's right to voice his opinion ... But if in fact he is refusing service to people who are not doing anything illegal, I don't respect that and would certainly not hold an appreciation day ... To run any legal business in most areas of the country, you first must attain a licence to do so ... That licence fee is paid to and handed out by a branch of the government ... I argue then that by accepting that licence you agree to follow certain guidelines ... Like not discriminating ...

Uno, I said you were affraid because your joke about choking down a drumstick sounded like a homophobic rant ... As in: I don't care what they do as long as they keep away from me ... :lol: ... Gays are not out to attack you or make you throw up in your mouth from PDA's at a Chick Fil A any more than most people ...

* EDIT: I swear that the news here reported that Chick Fil A 'will no longer serve same sex couples at their restaurants' ... But in a quick check, I have not been able to find that video ... In any event, that doesn't appear to be what any article is saying ... That fervor may actually have been fallout from Gay Activist calling for a boycott ...
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by Sparky Guy » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:09 pm

I've never been in a Chick-Fil-A restaurant in my life. I guess I'm ahead of the curve and have been unintentionally preemptively boycotting them. :o :lol: :D
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by PDad » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:35 pm

The gay activists have distorted and mischaracterized this whole thing to create a stir.

Here's the actual interview in the Baptist Press where he was answering a question - http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=38271

Here are excerpts from the statement Chick-fil-A released on Thursday, the day before their PR chief died of an apparent heart attack.

“The Chick-fil-A culture and service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender, ... We will continue this tradition in the over 1,600 restaurants run by independent owner/operators.”

“Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena.”

It's just a matter of time before gay marriage becomes legal and some/more churches will choose to perform the ceremony.

What I object to is the 'progressives' attacking anyone that doesn't agree with them and abridging their freedoms of religion and speech in the process. In that vein, they will eventually have the government try to force every church to perform same-gender marriages.
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by jonriv » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:59 pm

PDad wrote:The gay activists have distorted and mischaracterized this whole thing to create a stir.

Here's the actual interview in the Baptist Press where he was answering a question - http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=38271

Here are excerpts from the statement Chick-fil-A released on Thursday, the day before their PR chief died of an apparent heart attack.

“The Chick-fil-A culture and service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender, ... We will continue this tradition in the over 1,600 restaurants run by independent owner/operators.”

“Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena.”

It's just a matter of time before gay marriage becomes legal and some/more churches will choose to perform the ceremony.

What I object to is the 'progressives' attacking anyone that doesn't agree with them and abridging their freedoms of religion and speech in the process. In that vein, they will eventually have the government try to force every church to perform same-gender marriages.



I agree that the politicians in this matter are guilty of pandering and proposing actions that would be unconstitutional. I believe some Gay activists have gone a little overboard as well. Had Mr Cathy's statements ended with just supporting the traditional idea of marriage it might not have raised such a storm, but the fire and brimstone lines after that probably stirred up more than he intended

[quote]"We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit," Cathy said. "We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that."

'I'm gonna have to stop by there for spicy chicken sandwiches and a milkshake more often.'Chick-fil-A's stores are closed on Sundays and the company, he said, "operate[s] on biblical principles." The media storm grew larger when a June 16 radio program was spotlighted in which Cathy underscored the need for children to have a mom and a dad.

"As it relates to society in general, I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, 'We know better than You as to what constitutes a marriage,'" Cathy said on "The Ken Coleman Show." "I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we would have the audacity to try to redefine what marriage is all about." /quote]

As the CEO of a somewhat large company - he needs to understand that any public remarks he makes will get out and run the risk alienating someone. He has a responsibility to his franchisees not to take a course of action that might threaten their livelihood. It appears from some of the more recent statements he understands that now. He seems like a decent and good man who was just trying to answer honestly to question from a religious publication. Twenty years ago no one except the reading audience of that magazine would ever know, now is very different.

It is sad that first the far left jumped on it to take advantage and now the far right is doing the same. Too bad that a simple remark from an apparent good religious man can become so polarizing. I think both the far left and right need to look in the mirror and see how ridiculous this is.
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by Trophy Hunter » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:06 pm

PDad wrote:The gay activists have distorted and mischaracterized this whole thing to create a stir.

Here's the actual interview in the Baptist Press where he was answering a question - http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=38271

Here are excerpts from the statement Chick-fil-A released on Thursday, the day before their PR chief died of an apparent heart attack.

“The Chick-fil-A culture and service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender, ... We will continue this tradition in the over 1,600 restaurants run by independent owner/operators.”

“Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena.”

It's just a matter of time before gay marriage becomes legal and some/more churches will choose to perform the ceremony.

What I object to is the 'progressives' attacking anyone that doesn't agree with them and abridging their freedoms of religion and speech in the process. In that vein, they will eventually have the government try to force every church to perform same-gender marriages.


This is the problem I have as well. The "progressives" have learned that they can control the agenda by vilifying anyone who does not support them. By vociferously casting themselves as "victims," non-supporters become the "villain," and everyone is susceptible to their attacks, even those who take no position at all. They will continue using these smear tactics to garner "support" from increasingly fearful political, religious and business communities.
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by GIMNEPIWO » Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:18 pm

jonriv wrote:
PDad wrote:The gay activists have distorted and mischaracterized this whole thing to create a stir.

Here's the actual interview in the Baptist Press where he was answering a question - http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=38271

Here are excerpts from the statement Chick-fil-A released on Thursday, the day before their PR chief died of an apparent heart attack.

“The Chick-fil-A culture and service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender, ... We will continue this tradition in the over 1,600 restaurants run by independent owner/operators.”

“Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena.”

It's just a matter of time before gay marriage becomes legal and some/more churches will choose to perform the ceremony.

What I object to is the 'progressives' attacking anyone that doesn't agree with them and abridging their freedoms of religion and speech in the process. In that vein, they will eventually have the government try to force every church to perform same-gender marriages.



I agree that the politicians in this matter are guilty of pandering and proposing actions that would be unconstitutional. I believe some Gay activists have gone a little overboard as well. Had Mr Cathy's statements ended with just supporting the traditional idea of marriage it might not have raised such a storm, but the fire and brimstone lines after that probably stirred up more than he intended

"We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit," Cathy said. "We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that."

'I'm gonna have to stop by there for spicy chicken sandwiches and a milkshake more often.'Chick-fil-A's stores are closed on Sundays and the company, he said, "operate[s] on biblical principles." The media storm grew larger when a June 16 radio program was spotlighted in which Cathy underscored the need for children to have a mom and a dad.

"As it relates to society in general, I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, 'We know better than You as to what constitutes a marriage,'" Cathy said on "The Ken Coleman Show." "I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we would have the audacity to try to redefine what marriage is all about." /quote]

As the CEO of a somewhat large company - he needs to understand that any public remarks he makes will get out and run the risk alienating someone. He has a responsibility to his franchisees not to take a course of action that might threaten their livelihood. It appears from some of the more recent statements he understands that now. He seems like a decent and good man who was just trying to answer honestly to question from a religious publication. Twenty years ago no one except the reading audience of that magazine would ever know, now is very different.

It is sad that first the far left jumped on it to take advantage and now the far right is doing the same. Too bad that a simple remark from an apparent good religious man can become so polarizing. I think both the far left and right need to look in the mirror and see how ridiculous this is.


I am not a true student of the Bible... But if they are adhering to it completely, wouldn't they be closed on Sabado ( the sabath- saturday ) and not on Sundays ?
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by DonnieS » Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:23 pm

Just a suggestion - maybe this post ought to switch to "reading comprehension". A lot of people here have an agenda - and are typing that rather than understand what this was to start out with. Myself, I'm heading over to Chick Fil A. Again.
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by PDad » Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:34 pm

GIMNEPIWO wrote:I am not a true student of the Bible... But if they are adhering to it completely, wouldn't they be closed on Sabado ( the sabath- saturday ) and not on Sundays ?

It depends on your perspective. Maybe they use an ISO 8601 compliant calendar - like this one. LOL
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by Trophy Hunter » Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:43 pm

DonnieS wrote:Just a suggestion - maybe this post ought to switch to "reading comprehension". A lot of people here have an agenda - and are typing that rather than understand what this was to start out with. Myself, I'm heading over to Chick Fil A. Again.


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