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by Lefty's Dad » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:30 am

MC Magic 95 wrote:Ok...I have a few newbie questions about paid coaches. We have considered bringing in a paid coach because we (the current coaches) feel that it would be an upgrade and the girls can relate better to someone who has played the game at a high level.

1. How do these paid coaches get paid? By the hour? What is the going rate?
2. How do you find one of these coaches (in Houston)? We have been looking for about a month or two with no luck so far. Any leads or suggestions?
3. What do the coaches expect in terms of control over the team? Do they make player decisions or simply run practices.

95...There have been so many players came through your leagues organization that went on to college and play. In fact, one just graduated from A&M and is helping coach a team down the road from you in an organization that she didn't play in. Find those former college players, ask your league directors for names of possibilites. They are out there, you just have to find them. I don't know about the other questions you raise but I would assume they would be paid depending on the amount of help they are providing (ie. just practices, some tourneys, everything, etc.) and that might be a monthly amount. Of course it also depends on how much time they are willing to put in, but I would think that those former players that appreciate what their organization did for them would like to return the favor in some way.
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by Coach11 » Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:05 pm

MC Magic 95 wrote:Ok...I have a few newbie questions about paid coaches. We have considered bringing in a paid coach because we (the current coaches) feel that it would be an upgrade and the girls can relate better to someone who has played the game at a high level.

1. How do these paid coaches get paid? By the hour? What is the going rate?
2. How do you find one of these coaches (in Houston)? We have been looking for about a month or two with no luck so far. Any leads or suggestions?
3. What do the coaches expect in terms of control over the team? Do they make player decisions or simply run practices.


In these parts, quite often it's the local HS coaches that end up coaching the travel team.

Speaking specifically of the small town I live in, the varsity coach is very involved with the local travel league. He directly coaches our 14U travel squad, as those player are either currently, or will be next seasons, varsity players.

He uses some of his assistant coaches as well as former players to coach at the other levels ...10U, 12U, etc......but they are all coaching his system. He has total and complete control of the entire travel priogram.

Basically, he's just grooming what are likely to become his varsity teams.

He and the other coaches all receive a lump sum fee, agreed to out of the budget from registration.

I'm sure there are plenty of other payed coaches making much more money doing it other ways....but his main interest is ensuring his HS program is successful. Which it is.
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by GIMNEPIWO » Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:47 pm

Coach11 wrote:
MC Magic 95 wrote:Ok...I have a few newbie questions about paid coaches. We have considered bringing in a paid coach because we (the current coaches) feel that it would be an upgrade and the girls can relate better to someone who has played the game at a high level.

1. How do these paid coaches get paid? By the hour? What is the going rate?
2. How do you find one of these coaches (in Houston)? We have been looking for about a month or two with no luck so far. Any leads or suggestions?
3. What do the coaches expect in terms of control over the team? Do they make player decisions or simply run practices.


In these parts, quite often it's the local HS coaches that end up coaching the travel team.

Speaking specifically of the small town I live in, the varsity coach is very involved with the local travel league. He directly coaches our 14U travel squad, as those player are either currently, or will be next seasons, varsity players.

He uses some of his assistant coaches as well as former players to coach at the other levels ...10U, 12U, etc......but they are all coaching his system. He has total and complete control of the entire travel priogram.

Basically, he's just grooming what are likely to become his varsity teams.

He and the other coaches all receive a lump sum fee, agreed to out of the budget from registration.

I'm sure there are plenty of other payed coaches making much more money doing it other ways....but his main interest is ensuring his HS program is successful. Which it is.


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by dumbbutnotstupid » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:44 pm

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Coach11 wrote:<<No. The top Gold coaches make money though private instruction....some run tournaments and many have regular jobs.>>

OK....so then the key word is salary.

We have similar programs here.

Certain indoor facilities start teams and offer their players clinics, that have to be paid for. Of course they don't call them mandatory....but it's pretty well understood that if you don't attend, your spot is not guarenteed.


Not the same here...I don't know of any of the top Gold coaches that expect their players to take private lessons from them.


Wow...I must be on the other side of the fence but many "Gold" coaches either firmly suggest that the player takes lessons from them or "pushes" them to a certain coach, which in return they get referal fees.
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by Sam » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:19 am

dumbbutnotstupid wrote:
Sam wrote:
Coach11 wrote:<<No. The top Gold coaches make money though private instruction....some run tournaments and many have regular jobs.>>

OK....so then the key word is salary.

We have similar programs here.

Certain indoor facilities start teams and offer their players clinics, that have to be paid for. Of course they don't call them mandatory....but it's pretty well understood that if you don't attend, your spot is not guarenteed.


Not the same here...I don't know of any of the top Gold coaches that expect their players to take private lessons from them.


Wow...I must be on the other side of the fence but many "Gold" coaches either firmly suggest that the player takes lessons from them or "pushes" them to a certain coach, which in return they get referal fees.



Who? I said "top" Gold coaches. Name one.
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by Softballshouldbefun » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:54 am

Most of the paid coaches in Central Texas are former college players who want to stay involved in the game. I've also met some who are former Gold players within an organization and this is their opportunity to give back. If I were you, I'd check with the local university coaches and see if they know of any former players who might be interested. The majority of your major college coaches won't let their current players coach in the spring due to their softball/class schedules.

In general most are paid a minimum dollar amount above the cost of traveling to tournaments. There are some that do it for nothing, but I think they're quite rare. In other words, it's not something to quit your day job to pursue. Some organizations will have the parents pay monthly dues into an account and pay the coaches out of that. This allows them to save some money over the course of the year to fund trips to nationals.

One thing about high school coaches (in Texas)....I was told by a current high school coach that she had to turn down coaching offers because the girls on the teams were slated to go to her high school and it's a UIL violation due to the additional practices and tournaments. I couldn't tell you where it's written in stone.
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by dumbbutnotstupid » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:35 am

Sam wrote:
dumbbutnotstupid wrote:
Sam wrote:
Coach11 wrote:<<No. The top Gold coaches make money though private instruction....some run tournaments and many have regular jobs.>>

OK....so then the key word is salary.

We have similar programs here.

Certain indoor facilities start teams and offer their players clinics, that have to be paid for. Of course they don't call them mandatory....but it's pretty well understood that if you don't attend, your spot is not guarenteed.


Not the same here...I don't know of any of the top Gold coaches that expect their players to take private lessons from them.


Wow...I must be on the other side of the fence but many "Gold" coaches either firmly suggest that the player takes lessons from them or "pushes" them to a certain coach, which in return they get referal fees.



Who? I said "top" Gold coaches. Name one.


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by umpinva » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:33 am

GIMNEPIWO wrote:In these parts? HFS ! In our parts ... I wouldn't pay the HS Coach to get me a bag of peanuts ... I'm just sayin'


I'm thinking that if the coach has to leave the field and playing area to get that bag of peanuts, it could be worth every penny invested. ;)
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by Sam » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:48 pm

dumbbutnotstupid wrote:
Sam wrote:
dumbbutnotstupid wrote:
Sam wrote:
Coach11 wrote:<<No. The top Gold coaches make money though private instruction....some run tournaments and many have regular jobs.>>

OK....so then the key word is salary.

We have similar programs here.

Certain indoor facilities start teams and offer their players clinics, that have to be paid for. Of course they don't call them mandatory....but it's pretty well understood that if you don't attend, your spot is not guarenteed.


Not the same here...I don't know of any of the top Gold coaches that expect their players to take private lessons from them.


Wow...I must be on the other side of the fence but many "Gold" coaches either firmly suggest that the player takes lessons from them or "pushes" them to a certain coach, which in return they get referal fees.



Who? I said "top" Gold coaches. Name one.


OC Batbusters,Firecrackers, Desperadoes, Raiders to name just a few!


You missed on all four. Haning doesn't require it. Rico doesn't require it, but you would be a fool not to go to him if you had a chance. Desperados and Raiders.....top Gold coaches???? Come on.

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by dumbbutnotstupid » Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:31 pm

Sam wrote:
dumbbutnotstupid wrote:
Sam wrote:
dumbbutnotstupid wrote:
Sam wrote:
Coach11 wrote:<<No. The top Gold coaches make money though private instruction....some run tournaments and many have regular jobs.>>

OK....so then the key word is salary.

We have similar programs here.

Certain indoor facilities start teams and offer their players clinics, that have to be paid for. Of course they don't call them mandatory....but it's pretty well understood that if you don't attend, your spot is not guarenteed.


Not the same here...I don't know of any of the top Gold coaches that expect their players to take private lessons from them.


Wow...I must be on the other side of the fence but many "Gold" coaches either firmly suggest that the player takes lessons from them or "pushes" them to a certain coach, which in return they get referal fees.



Who? I said "top" Gold coaches. Name one.


OC Batbusters,Firecrackers, Desperadoes, Raiders to name just a few!


You missed on all four. Haning doesn't require it. Rico doesn't require it, but you would be a fool not to go to him if you had a chance. Desperados and Raiders.....top Gold coaches???? Come on.

Try again.

Whatever, you have your opinon, I have facts. Know too many girls that have been pressured to change instructors, simply because they didnt "like" or approve of the instructior a player is going to.

And why would I be a fool to not go to them. Do they know evereything? Are they they best private coaches? Matter of opinion. Also, you asked for top gold coaches, not just 2. Im sure Kurtz and Breuder would dissagree with your opinion.
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