On the Road to Socialism? We've Arrived!

[Joe]

My friends, have faith...

The O man is following in the same footsteps as our first 'Black' president in 1992. Brother Bill tried the same socialist approach with the world's finest health care system back then and the American people woke up and 're-balanced' with the Republican takeover of congress. The electorate in these United States is still a majority conservative lot and they will once again realize their sins of the past and add balance to the equation in 2010. Now, if they throw up another Bob Dole in 2012, they'll (we'll) get their ass kicked.

But the folks in the middle will realize soon enough who's gonna pay the bills... while at the same time watching their 401K's whither away to nothing (see Japan). The guys with the money (over 200K/year) aren't stupid and they're going to keep making their money in spite of all the BS the O man throws at them. The middle class will need to wake up and I believe they will... hopefully sooner than later.

Reminds of that brilliant idea the Dems had of a luxury tax. Problem is...the guys building the nice expensive boats, planes, and cars were the ones who lost their jobs because the rich guys stop buying. Oooops!

Have faith...51% of us will come through in the end...

[jofus]

1. The Bush White house and the libretarians that ran it nearly destroyed our economy. The hundreds of Enrons and Countrywides that went unregulated for years were supposed to lift us all up to the next economic class..."didn't pan out for many of us." Hundreds of Enrons? OK..... Oh, and the wife and I make about twice what we made when Dubya took office, but maybe the fact that we have a little ambition and work hard has something to do with that.

2. If John McCain had won...was his plan any different ? At least McCain was honest enough to tell you what he wanted to do, rather than tell you what you wanted to hear.

3. Ask the millions that have lost their homes and/or jobs if a little socialism is a bad thing. Ask the millions over the world that have lived through "a little socialism" if it is a bad thing. That statement shows a pretty deep knowledge of political world history (insert sarcasm here). Oh, and we bought a house we could afford, have never been late on a payment, and will have it payed off in 2 years (gotta love that 15 year mortgage). So, as a reward for being sensible and not buying more house than I could afford, I get to....help pay the mortgages of people who weren't as sensible? Gee, thanks.

4. Hillary doesn't need respect. We have laser guided missiles that actually work. Thanks Bill Did you really just thank Bill Clinton for our military strength??????

5. Off subject...the war in Iraq is over...bring home the boys. When the Iraqi's finish killing each other off , we'll buy some oil off the ones still standing...like the good ol' days. The war's over, yet you want them to kill each other off?

6. Skarp...come back to us. You've gone off into deep right field. I bet right field does look a long ways away when you are over behind the left field bleachers

[Skarp]

My friends, have faith...

The O man is following in the same footsteps as our first 'Black' president in 1992. Brother Bill tried the same socialist approach with the world's finest health care system back then and the American people woke up and 're-balanced' with the Republican takeover of congress. The electorate in these United States is still a majority conservative lot and they will once again realize their sins of the past and add balance to the equation in 2010. Now, if they throw up another Bob Dole in 2012, they'll (we'll) get their ass kicked.

But the folks in the middle will realize soon enough who's gonna pay the bills... while at the same time watching their 401K's whither away to nothing (see Japan). The guys with the money (over 200K/year) aren't stupid and they're going to keep making their money in spite of all the BS the O man throws at them. The middle class will need to wake up and I believe they will... hopefully sooner than later.

Reminds of that brilliant idea the Dems had of a luxury tax. Problem is...the guys building the nice expensive boats, planes, and cars were the ones who lost their jobs because the rich guys stop buying. Oooops!

Have faith...51% of us will come through in the end...

You have more faith than I. We (those with 1st-world value systems and an individualist ethos) are losing the demographic war, big-time. And have we really ever "re-balanced?" I think not. More like one step right after every 3 steps left.

And the snowball is really picking up speed now.

[Joe]

We'll see.

They could have dug up RR from the grave, no Republican was going to win this round. The war, the economy...all the perfect mix for what may be the most eloquent politican ever... the Tiger Woods of politics if you will.

Conservatives just need to find their man (or woman) bellyup to the bar and grab the pendulum when it swings our way.

If not, I hear that Costa Rica is nice...

[Dugout Dad]

We'll see.

They could have dug up RR from the grave, no Republican was going to win this round. The war, the economy...all the perfect mix for what may be the most eloquent politican ever... the Tiger Woods of politics if you will.

Conservatives just need to find their man (or woman) bellyup to the bar and grab the pendulum when it swings our way.

If not, I hear that Costa Rica is nice...

Skarp, what are you doing 3 and half years from now? I'd vote for you.

[Skarp]

...all the perfect mix for what may be the most eloquent politican ever...

Well, perhaps not so eloquent as all that...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19663.html

[Whizzer86]

As I heard today, the Dow has hit a low not seen since 1997. I believe that was well deep into the Clinton "reign".

We were at war virtually every day during the Clinton admin while constantly cutting the military budget. As I remembered it we kicked the sh*t out of every non threat country we could find, whether they needed it or not. Although the Media rarely reported it on the front page.

Bush walks into a near impossible situation and maintains, granted maybe Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt and Ike could have done better but I doubt it.

Obama walks into an impossible situation, can he turn it around? Probably because unless the fate of the US is to be the next fall of the chinese, Roman, German, USSR empire, we have to survive. Since the World economy depends largely on us, I would say a turn around is imminent.

The problem is the US will just become more of a "company", owned by foriegn business. You can blame Bush, Clinton, Bush and now fear Obama but the fault is our own. We as a whole have divided ourselves into 2 parties and voted accordingly. I don't have an independant canidate that could have made a difference but by eliminating the possibility of a candidate to be elected on merit rather than party we have done a disservice.

Bottom line, we allowed this to happen (including me), so we must enjoy the ride?

[weekend4trvl]

I thought it was the tri-lateral commission than ran the show

Wasn't Osama Bin-Ladens dad on that commission.

[blackwidow]

It really comes down to this:

laissez-faire economics vs. Keynesian economics.

Has anyone read The Road to Serfdom by Frederick Hayek?

Originally published in 1944—when Eleanor Roosevelt supported the efforts of Stalin, and Albert Einstein subscribed lock, stock, and barrel to the socialist program—The Road to Serfdom was seen as heretical for its passionate warning against the dangers of state control over the means of production. For F. A. Hayek, the collectivist idea of empowering government with increasing economic control would lead not to a utopia but to the horrors of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy.

Another good economic story:

http://mises.org/story/3165

[Skarp]

Has anyone read The Road to Serfdom by Frederick Hayek?

Need you ask?

Although Hayek did not support pure laissez-faire economics, he did correctly point out the dangers of state control.

The Constitution of Liberty is another great Hayek book.