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by anonlooker » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:17 pm

softballjunkie365 wrote:This is for Clean_up and LA FAMILIA

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Coach Kenny wasn't talking to Aimee or the dugout, he was telling his batters something to which Aimee took offense to and she addressed him first, then he responded, then Aimee complained to the umpire.

Hmmmmm, I guess Amie made this all up just to be mean huh or the 14 little girls who also heard him (Are you calling them liars too?) Kenny was taunting point blank lady you were sitting next too the disgruntle parent and the motor mouth score keeper for the Angels. The whole time the score keeper was taunting how slow the Rebels pitcher was and that we can hit her all day. I guess you didn't hear that part because you were sitting so close too her huh? Why didn't you use common sense and say something to him when he was yelling Amie's name??? Like I said he made it personal. (I think a parent has a video on his blackberry if you want too get technical about it. At this point he or she don't mind at all too expose you.) . If they do the Rebel chant so what????? They only do it to cheer their team on. It's nothing wrong with that stop reaching........

Actually, I have many times seen and heard fans cheer for their team. The Rebels chant is annoying, loud and meant to distract the opposing team and it is successful. I was just guessing on why he started yelling her name, it was rude and personal against her, you are correct and IMO uncalled for. Spell check? Who really cares how she spells her name, seriously? Besides spell check shows AMY.

I see now you have a problem with The Rebels chant, LOL I'm sorry that you are intimated by it. Please don't go too any sports event or professional games outside of softball you might have a nervous break down lady!!! One minute you try too sound all righteous about things and the next minute sneaking your little blows in about the Rebels. (Snake) WOW is Amie the only word you misspelled I think not, LMAO Go back and look again!!! LOL


LA FAMILIA says: just to confirm that CA Rebels have the most GHETTO CREW AND COACHES


The only word that comes out of your mouth is GHETTO hmmmmm do you know anything else?? Ghetto this, Ghetto that! If I look in the dictionary for the word GHETTO would I see a picture of you???? I think everyone on here needs to treat you a little different, because you are a very special person. Figure that one out GHETTO BOY!!


I'm curious. How often did the Rebel parents use the "rebel cheer" to cheer on the girls when they were getting drubbed by Power Surge?

And you can not liken cheering at a 12U game to cheering at a professional sporting event. If you do, then you would have no problem with the language and conduct of the CA parent.
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by 3teamer » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:22 pm

Rebel cheer has been around forever ask Tark. But I prefer WYOOOOOMING
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by Killer Rabbit » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:24 pm

For a lot of newbies out there, the word "ghetto" has been discussed on HeyBucket for pretty much the entire last year. It was used inpart to describe the "acts" of a certain team, and or it's coaches last year in Park City. My use of the word was in reference to these past descriptions and uses of that word. I then said that idiots was a better name to call these people. Looks like everyone is OK with that word so let's just call them idiots and go on from there.

What other word can you use to describe the women who were joking about the "white girls crying"? Any girl crying or being upset out of fear is wrong. Would it matter how much education or how great a job these women have? No, they are idiots.
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by goodeye » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:26 pm

softballjunkie365 wrote:This is for Clean_up and LA FAMILIA

Clean_up says:
Coach Kenny wasn't talking to Aimee or the dugout, he was telling his batters something to which Aimee took offense to and she addressed him first, then he responded, then Aimee complained to the umpire.

Hmmmmm, I guess Amie made this all up just to be mean huh or the 14 little girls who also heard him (Are you calling them liars too?) Kenny was taunting point blank lady you were sitting next too the disgruntle parent and the motor mouth score keeper for the Angels. The whole time the score keeper was taunting how slow the Rebels pitcher was and that we can hit her all day. I guess you didn't hear that part because you were sitting so close too her huh? Why didn't you use common sense and say something to him when he was yelling Amie's name??? Like I said he made it personal. (I think a parent has a video on his blackberry if you want too get technical about it. At this point he or she don't mind at all too expose you.) . If they do the Rebel chant so what????? They only do it to cheer their team on. It's nothing wrong with that stop reaching........

Actually, I have many times seen and heard fans cheer for their team. The Rebels chant is annoying, loud and meant to distract the opposing team and it is successful. I was just guessing on why he started yelling her name, it was rude and personal against her, you are correct and IMO uncalled for. Spell check? Who really cares how she spells her name, seriously? Besides spell check shows AMY.

I see now you have a problem with The Rebels chant, LOL I'm sorry that you are intimated by it. Please don't go too any sports event or professional games outside of softball you might have a nervous break down lady!!! One minute you try too sound all righteous about things and the next minute sneaking your little blows in about the Rebels. (Snake) WOW is Amie the only word you misspelled I think not, LMAO Go back and look again!!! LOL


LA FAMILIA says: just to confirm that CA Rebels have the most GHETTO CREW AND COACHES


The only word that comes out of your mouth is GHETTO hmmmmm do you know anything else?? Ghetto this, Ghetto that! If I look in the dictionary for the word GHETTO would I see a picture of you???? I think everyone on here needs to treat you a little different, because you are a very special person. Figure that one out GHETTO BOY!!



Please, you can't compare what happens in professional sports to 12U softball. Just because chanting occurs in other levels of sports, does not make it right with 12 year olds. No way!! And guess what happens when it goes to far - fights break out in the stands. Whatever happened yesterday sounds like a typical Oakland Raider football game.
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by cjs50 » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:27 pm

Does no one see the difference between Rebelllls! cheering on a team ...and Suck this coach while grabbing his penis...Do you not think that someone might get mad about that? Take responsibility for your actions..When he decided to say Suck this coach in front of our team Those are fightin' words..and no man is going to let someone say that..I don't think your husband would stand there and let someone say that in front of your stands..well maybe he would..who knows..
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by playball » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:31 pm

Just woke up, did something happen yesterday? :lol:
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by AM Softball » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:37 pm

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Sftbll4ever wrote:Maybe not hitting back, but detaining him until the police arrive would have been better. Why weren't the police called. I would have been on that phone so quick he wouldn't even know what hit him.

If someone ran swinging into the women on our team, I would still be beating him when the cops showed up. Vigilante justice is way underrated these days.

That said, "did you see the little white girls crying" is pathetic and inexcusable. G...H...E...T...T...O!!


This is also not accurate. There were white players, black players, and hispanic players crying and EVERYONE from the Rebels know this so that comment is definitely out of context.
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by AM Softball » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:41 pm

Clean_up wrote:
hotwheels wrote:Our 12U team has played both teams and been beaten by both... :cry:

With that being said, we haven't had any personal issues with either one of their teams which are both HIGH QUALITY and TALENTED teams and coaching! I think people ge offended by the Rebels because they let it bother them. I haven't seen it be negative ever so I think it is just a tool they use to motivate their team....And it works!!

I think that both teams made some terrible decisions yesterday and it got WAAAY out of hand. I have heard all the rumors about the Rebels on this board but haven't seen it for myself so I would rather not make a comment on it. I do know that when we've played them they have been respectful. That goes for the Angels too!

I just think that both sides let that situation evolve and both are at fault......The sad part is that the girls had to see it!


That's just it though, other than the yelling of her name a few times in one inning, there was nothing else going on. He wasn't ranting and raving during the game, just sitting in his chair, quiet. When he did start yelling sucks after the game in response to the Rebels parent(s)chanting Aimie, it escalated in just seconds it seemed when the boyfriend walked over and boom, it was this huge deal, Angels parents holding him back, etc. Then it was over, parents packing up their stuff and walking out. There was no warning of what happened next, no way for anyone on the team to know or even think about it. This parent has never shown anything other than a rather laid back personality, like I said before it was surreal. Kind of hard to control a parent who does something completely out of character, taking everyone off guard and by surprise.

As far as the issue of talking coaches, complaints on the field - that wasn't a big deal, at least it didn't get people in our dugout or stands fired up, nobody even cared about it. All we heard was Aimie telling the umpire to have our coach stop talking to her or she would pull her team.


WOW, you say you didn't hear it...hmmmm but a few posts ago you said that KENNY WAS NOT TALKING TO THE DUGOUT and that ws a lie. If you couldn't hear anything, than how do you know this?

Anyone reading this can see the contradictions...like I said, you should just stay out of it.
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by Clean_up » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:44 pm

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Clean_up wrote:Coach Kenny wasn't talking to Aimee or the dugout, he was telling his batters something to which Aimee took offense to and she addressed him first, then he responded, then Aimee complained to the umpire.

The parent who started yelling Aimees name I can only surmise was in response to all the Rebel parents screaming their REBELS chant when they rallied in the 2nd inning - I assume it was to show the same respect to the coach that trying to confuse and intimidate with the team chant is meant to do to the opposite team. No other Angels parents were out of control, they were trying to difuse the situation between the two parents. Aimee's boyfriend did approach the Angels side of the stands first when the parent started yelling "sucks" after Rebels parents were screaming/chanting AIMEE after the game and yelling back "Sucks What?" and then it got really ugly.

Bad behavior on both people and no excuse at all for this unfortunate occurance at ANY type of sports event, let alone 12U girls softball.


Wow, once again this is innacurate and it is funny how ALL Rebel parents saw it the same way but obviously all CA parents did not, seeing that we've already had letters from some of them saying this parent is crazy and they were so sorry for what he did. It's also funny how Kenny apologized to numerous parents of the Rebel team. Why would he do that if he was right and we were wrong? I didn't apologize because we had nothing to apologize for.

Sidenote: I was really hoping you would stay out of it, you should have and you didn't, but don't get up here and start comprimising the story when you weren't there to hear it.

He was yelling to his batters, she's hittable, she's leaving the change hanging, she's hittable, as other CA parents yelled she's slow, we can hit her. Whenever you talk about the kids and not your own team, you are asking for trouble. Coach your team and leave the other players out of it. Twice, we yelled good plays to Kenny's daughter and their catcher so we were not talking trash about the CA players. Kenny daughter also came up to me, AFTER this occurred in the stands, and gave me a hug and said good game; I hugged her and said I am sorry that this happened in front of you guys (but her own dad could have diffused the situation earlier).

I didn't address him first, I yelled to my daughter, the pitcher, to not let him talk about her like that and to back it up. He then proceeded to talk and talk to me and our dugout, in front of our kids. Words were exchanged and when I said, why don't you just be quiet, his EXACT WORDS were, I don't have to. I love playing you. I can talk all I want to you guys. Now that's classy.

That is when we threatened to take our team and just forfeit. The umpire asked me if he called me names or threatened me. When I said no, but he's facing our dugout talking and talking and talking, the umpire said he could not do anything about that if he wanted to yell at our dugout, which was pretty ridiculous as well. It's like a hoop game when you just let the emotions rise. They could have stopped it long before that.

Winning doesn't mean that much to us and that's why is is HILARIOUS you think we do that cheer to intimidate. We don't need to intimidate little girls at 12u and we don't need to yell at 12u pitchers on the mound while we are on offense. How can the cheer be so bad but yelling at our pitchers be ok? Come on cleanup, you weren't too mad cause you were on our side quite often joking with our parents during the game and it was AFTER the so called mean Rebel cheer in the 2nd.


You are absolutely correct, and I apologize for posting what I had heard was said, but not actually heard, if that makes sense. I didn't hear anyone yelling at any pitcher on the mound, just encouraging batters - but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

As far as the chant goes, if you know that it DOES distract and intimidate, regardless of the chants intent, then why do it? And by the way, I am not distracted or intimidated by it, but some of the girls are and same thing with a lot of the little girls on teams you guys play. No matter how your team defends it, the fact still remains that it does interefer with some of the kids ability to just focus on the game.

And lastly, OF COURSE all of us are sorry and apologetic for the actions of this one parent, myself included - it makes me sick, all of the drama, kids in distress and people hurt. My only point on any of my posts is that there were things done back and forth and each person needs to accept responsibility for their own actions or reactions. Nothing is one-sided and it takes more than one to get things going.
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by AM Softball » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:45 pm

Clean_up wrote:
softballmafia wrote:Yes it is very sad......the both coaches are at fault and by their actions were contributors to this whole blow out.....where was the umpires during this game....he should have stopped this game and thrown whoever involved out of the park... period!!!!!


Again, there was no altercation between the coaches during the game other than what was posted before, Aimie objecting to Kenny saying something to his batters regarding hittable pitches and complaint to the umpire that he was talking to her. The two parents big blowout happened AFTER the game while the teams where shaking hands.


Oh, in post #3 you heard it again and it was towards his batters...Which is it? Did you hear it like a few posts or did you NOT hear it, like the other posts?

One thing, when the story changes multiple times, that's a great indication of guilt.
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