California TCS Sparkler cancelled?

[jonriv]

Probably an almost 0% as to anyone under 50 this is a non event.
The response should have been to isolate anyone in a high risk group. Not try and destroy the whole country’s economy and ruin the lives of millions.

The problem is that anyone who attends a high density event then by extension endangers everyone else they come in contact with. I agree we need to reopen, but having a gathering of a few hundred people at this time is not worth it, If you were just endangering yourself, no problem. Reopening needs to happen in a sensible matter. Agreed that high risk people should stay home, but there are estimates that over 50% of the population are high risk. Many people, including kids, don't even realize they are at high risk. There are a lot people that are successfully working from home, no need to bring them back in. Businesses that do open will probably be in staggered shifts. Places will need to be cleaned more often. People will need to keep their distances. Having big youth sports tourneys may not be able to happen, but single games I would think would be fine. I hope they figure out something about the schools, France reopened theirs and the got a new spike in cases.

I am not some hysterical fear monger, I simply look at the facts and risks. As I have said, we need to reopen, but to just fling the doors open and have things go back to "normal" make no sense.

[Luiaguilera]

Probably an almost 0% as to anyone under 50 this is a non event.
The response should have been to isolate anyone in a high risk group. Not try and destroy the whole country’s economy and ruin the lives of millions.

HB needs a facepalm emoji

All fun and games till someone wakes up from a nice restful coma https://www.nbclosangeles.com/on-air/ma ... a/2350837/

[jonriv]

I am not some hysterical fear monger, I simply look at the facts and risks. As I have said, we need to reopen, but to just fling the doors open and have things go back to "normal" make no sense.

Then you should be well aware of the stats regarding age and infection . I’m not saying have Nationals next week but the mass shutdown is unprecedented and unwarranted.

So the entire world is wrong and you are right?

I am well ware of the stats regarding age and infection- young people are jut as likely to get infected(they might not die or even get that sick) but they do become vectors for spread. If large social events(places that young people like to go) start happening again we lose all the ground we have made.

[Sam]

Uhhhh....anybody that has stated that 50% of the population is high risk is either a liar or extremely stupid. Again from my post 6 pages ago:

92% of COVID-related Deaths are ages 55+
80% of COVID-related Deaths are 65+

A grand total of 6 deaths in the 5-14 year age demographic....only 2 females
59 deaths in the 15-24 age demographic.....only 20 females
Both of these stats are as of 5/9/20 and are coded as COVID19-Involved

Total deaths during the period:
5-14 year old = 1,223........so that's 0.16% of those deaths are COVID19-Involved
15-24 year old = 7,452.....and that's 0.27% of those deaths are COVID19-Involved.

Someone's definition of high risk is much different than mine.

[jonriv]

Uhhhh....anybody that has stated that 50% of the population is high risk is either a liar or extremely stupid. Again from my post 6 pages ago:

92% of COVID-related Deaths are ages 55+
80% of COVID-related Deaths are 65+

A grand total of 6 deaths in the 5-14 year age demographic....only 2 females
59 deaths in the 15-24 age demographic.....only 20 females
Both of these stats are as of 5/9/20 and are coded as COVID19-Involved

Total deaths during the period:
5-14 year old = 1,223........so that's 0.16% of those deaths are COVID19-Involved
15-24 year old = 7,452.....and that's 0.27% of those deaths are COVID19-Involved.

Someone's definition of high risk is much different than mine.

34% of population is over 50
39% of population is obese
10.5% has diabetes
5.5 % of population has cancer
48% of Americans have some form of heart disease

These are all considered at risk- and there is age cross-over for many of these conditions

Don't disagree that the elderly are most at risk of dying, but the young have just as much(if not more) chance of spreading it

[Sam]

Uhhhh....anybody that has stated that 50% of the population is high risk is either a liar or extremely stupid. Again from my post 6 pages ago:

92% of COVID-related Deaths are ages 55+
80% of COVID-related Deaths are 65+

A grand total of 6 deaths in the 5-14 year age demographic....only 2 females
59 deaths in the 15-24 age demographic.....only 20 females
Both of these stats are as of 5/9/20 and are coded as COVID19-Involved

Total deaths during the period:
5-14 year old = 1,223........so that's 0.16% of those deaths are COVID19-Involved
15-24 year old = 7,452.....and that's 0.27% of those deaths are COVID19-Involved.

Someone's definition of high risk is much different than mine.

34% of population is over 50
39% of population is obese
10.5% has diabetes
5.5 % of population has cancer
48% of Americans have some form of heart disease

These are all considered at risk- and there is age cross-over for many of these conditions

Don't disagree that the elderly are most at risk of dying, but the young have just as much(if not more) chance of spreading it

The death stats already contain those risk factors. The numbers don't change. If people think they are at risk, they can certainly choose to self-quarantine. Requiring others to do so infringes upon our constitutional rights as citizens of the greatest country in the history of mankind. We are exactly that because of our prior commitment to our constitutional rights.....which we are handing over right now to power hungry socialists, intent on destroying our country.

[jonriv]

Uhhhh....anybody that has stated that 50% of the population is high risk is either a liar or extremely stupid. Again from my post 6 pages ago:

92% of COVID-related Deaths are ages 55+
80% of COVID-related Deaths are 65+

A grand total of 6 deaths in the 5-14 year age demographic....only 2 females
59 deaths in the 15-24 age demographic.....only 20 females
Both of these stats are as of 5/9/20 and are coded as COVID19-Involved

Total deaths during the period:
5-14 year old = 1,223........so that's 0.16% of those deaths are COVID19-Involved
15-24 year old = 7,452.....and that's 0.27% of those deaths are COVID19-Involved.

Someone's definition of high risk is much different than mine.

34% of population is over 50
39% of population is obese
10.5% has diabetes
5.5 % of population has cancer
48% of Americans have some form of heart disease

These are all considered at risk- and there is age cross-over for many of these conditions

Don't disagree that the elderly are most at risk of dying, but the young have just as much(if not more) chance of spreading it

The death stats already contain those risk factors. The numbers don't change. If people think they are at risk, they can certainly choose to self-quarantine. Requiring others to do so infringes upon our constitutional rights as citizens of the greatest country in the history of mankind. We are exactly that because of our prior commitment to our constitutional rights.....which we are handing over right now to power hungry socialists, intent on destroying our country.

Sam-now you sound hysterical. You don't have the "right" to get someone else sick. The Constitution is not a suicide pact and the Federal and State governments have every right(under the Constitution) in fact a duty to enact temporary restrictions in order to protect its citizens. It is established law and has happened before(and will happen again) The better all people follow some very simple social distancing rules and stop being selfish the sooner we can get past this. I'm not sure what rights you are having infringed- I can leave my house when I want, go where I want- say what I want, disagree with whom I want-

The country is opening back up, we just need to be careful and considerate. People need to understand that their actions can have a deadly effect on others

[Sam]

Uhhh....i'm not hysterical.

I do have the right to my liberty and freedom. Many more people die in car accidents than die of COVID....do you want to confiscate my vehicles? No? But my actions in a car could cause someone to get hurt or killed.....why shut down ANYTHING for a flu you might get that 99% of the people who contract it, recover from it??? This is all about politics and power....nothing to do with safety. The data is the data. You can ignore it if you wish. I'll be at the Colorado River this weekend sporting absolutely no mask. I will be giving my friends hugs and enjoying my freedom and liberty. You can do what you wish.

[DirtyRiders]

People seem to focus on who has the virus or who unfortunately has died because of this virus. To shed light on this a different way there are 329,474,416 Americans out of 331,002,651 who have not been infected by this virus. That means 99.5% of Americans have not been infected. 330,910,987 out of 331,002,651 Americans are Alive in spite of this virus. That means 99.97% of all Americans are Alive in spite of this virus. I agree with setting guidelines to return to the field even with those numbers, but at what point is it ok to focus on the population that doesn’t have the virus. The mortality rate is misleading because it doesn’t account for the 329,474,416 healthy Americans.

[SDTitans]

People seem to focus on who has the virus or who unfortunately has died because of this virus. To shed light on this a different way there are 329,474,416 Americans out of 331,002,651 who have not been infected by this virus. That means 99.5% of Americans have not been infected. 330,910,987 out of 331,002,651 Americans are Alive in spite of this virus. That means 99.97% of all Americans are Alive in spite of this virus. I agree with setting guidelines to return to the field even with those numbers, but at what point is it ok to focus on the population that doesn’t have the virus. The mortality rate is misleading because it doesn’t account for the 329,474,416 healthy Americans.

everyone in America would have to be tested to make those claims. They have not and most likely not every American will be tested.




Why can't people just be honest and say, I could careless if anyone catches it.. I just want to be out on the dirt watching my kid play.. what happens happens..