lvtwft wrote:WOW, you guys have so much anger inside you. Count backwards from ten, slowly and release. Yes I voted McCain even though I hated Palin. I thought at that time we need more of what he brought to the table.
Are you that angry at this president when someone ask ?'s about a comment to see where it was coming from, you have to fly off the handle like that??(Skarp have you had sex in a while, if not just let it out man:)
Bush one messed up and should have finished the job in Iraq, Bush II took down a leader that should have been disposed of a while ago. I THINK, wrong time wrong reasons(IMHO). Other countries as well talk a big talk and carry a little stick. There of course were a lot of others reasons why they choose to go into Iraq, but I dont think we needed to focus on that.
Are you f'ing kidding me right now? Not as many wackos were haranguing Bush? What planet are you on? Oh wait, you were probably one of them. "Bush lied, people died!"...right?
The "Bush lied" canard is way past tired
Two parts Here Skarpy, 1st have a little respect for the people whom did die over there. Being a former military person I know what it is like. My family was over there fighting without question for a war that perhaps should have been thought out a little more and dealt with differently.
I hope you did not mean any disrespect to them. To the people whom lost loved ones over there it will never be "way past tired".
Perhaps it is more in the media now then back when Bush II was in office, but I dont think the Aryan nation, KKK or white supremacist or other groups based on you ethnic background/convoluted beliefs were involved in multiple plans and a few even really bad attempts to get close to the president to cause harm. Every president has it Wacko stalkers and hate groups that dont like them. I am seeing much more of that with Obama. I can sit back and just watch as you donkeys and elephants make a mess out of the world.
I can observe and then write what I see. I will not see eye to eye with a Republican or a Democrat on all things, but on some of course. I dont know how someone thinks the Democrats or Republicans have all the right answers? They dont and people should speak out when they do see something wrong.
Back to the whole basis of my first e-mail..
Would the initial person whom started this thread write that about a Republican too??
Go ahead and flame Skarp, you need some kind of release. You are wound tight my man..
And for the guy that called me a "sorry sphincter", you are right. Bush never lied and about anything....EVER...
of course that is just MHO..
P.S I think my DD was on Code Pink when she was in t-ball..I might have to check on that one..
I don't know which is more impressive...the complete lack of substance in your response, or your self-congratulatory tone over its creation. Either way, if you think that arguing with the likes of you gets me wound up, your dreaming. I do this for fun, after a long day of winning arguments against folks with far more intellectual firepower than you're packing.
I direct the rest of my comments not to you, but to anyone actually capable of understanding how pathetically weak your arguments are.
First, your attempt to label anyone who has a problem with Obama's performance as racist is at best intellectually bankrupt, and at worst morally reprehensible. But then calling people evil (i.e., "Bush lied to justify an unjustifiable war, and sent people off to their deaths for no good reason"...nevermind that I can't support that claim with actual evidence) seems to be your M.O. Conservatives disagree with socialist policies on principled grounds, whether the proponents of said policies are black, white, or purple. To suggest that they don't--which is the necessary implication of crying racism--is either remarkably ignorant or deliberately obtuse.
Second, invoking the KKK is weak. The fact that a few extreme nutjobs hate blacks has zero probative value with respect to whether Republicans or conservatives hate blacks. Democrats are undeniably the party of racism, and I'll happily trade fact for fact with anyone on that issue.
Third, my (
substantive) refutation of your completely unsupported "Bush lied" assertion wasn't disrespectful to the military in the slightest. Now if it was factually proven that a) Bush lied about WMD's, and b) Bush had no independently adequate justification for going to war with Iraq, then excusing Bush's decision to go to war could be considered disrespectful to those who fought and died, and disrespectful to those who lost loved ones. Neither is the case, and you haven't offered anything but naked claims to the contrary.
Fourth, your query whether the OP would have asked the same question about a Republican reveals as much or more about your bias as it could possibly hope to reveal about those of the OP. To even question whether it is appropriate to shine a light on blatant quid pro quo corruption engaged in by a sitting senator/president makes it crystal clear which side of the fence you're sitting on. If you were truly independent, you would have a BIG problem with the conduct described in the article. Instead you have a problem with the guy who circulated it. Very telling.
I could go on but, truth be told, you bore me nearly to tears. Sad to think that so many people out there actually believe that tripe constitutes valid argumentation.
On the bright side, I now know what it's like to be condescended to by a kindergartner.
(Just kidding)
