ASA tournaments

[Joe]

I have one word for you PONY. In fact, i think I am going to refer to you as Pony Boy cuz I know how much you like to ride that white horse.

YEE HAW...RIDE 'EM COWBOY!!!

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Pony Joe is watching from afar...

....readying for the disposition of another ASA butt pirate, using yet another screen name after Joe thumped you the last time you farted the ASA company line. Be patient please...I'll be right back with you...I'm busy counting all those VTD $$$.

[Underdog]

OMG never did I imagine I would have so much influence over PONY Boy and his colleagues. I make a simple post this morning at 9:00 about how overpriced the VTD tourneys are and how much success ASA is having with their friendly's that cost a little over 1/4 of the price of those VTD tournaments. Then at about 1:00 this afternoon on VTD's website you see postings all over the board about hosting friendlys and how you should make VTD your organization of choice. I know I piss excellence and all but now I am thinking about making a run for the presidency in 2012 if I can create that amount of change in such a short time period.

ADNIL in response to your question it looks like the majority of their tournaments are either 5 GG or 6GG with a cost between $425-$440. Some of those same facilities were charging less than that last year for the same amount of games while they were under the ASA flag. Go figure. If you want games then why not schedule friendlys. You can get 4 games in easily for less than $150. That is what you call a no-brainer.

Joe sniffle where are you sniffle

Hey Aunt Mental ,

If ASA is the cream of the crop why are you so fixated on Joe and VTD ? What do you care how much they charge ???

[men talljie aunt]

So many things to say so many people to respond to.

PONY Boy I can assure you that you and I have never engaged one another in HB dialogue. While I respect your braggadocio I am confident in my abilities to handle your junior high mentality and sophomoric antics. Your reply was well below your normal standards. Also, it would be refreshing to see you reply with a rebuttal of facts rather than just trying to gloss it over or use some misdirection with attempted comedy. Dont worry though I know you are busy right now.

Underdog my friend I dont think you see the big picture here. Its not that I am really all that concerned about Joe or VTD or IFA or PONY or USFA or WTF or even ASA for that matter. I am just trying to be a voice of reason against an onslaught of VTD propaganda and ASA bashing by a lot of people on here. If the masses want to spend that amount of money on tournaments so be it. After all something is only worth what somebody is willing to pay. But most of the time the masses are not that intelligent and develop a sheep herd mentality and only do what they see other people doing. Just trying to show them options. God bless Houston and parents like you. In Tx ASA is cream of the crop, at least for those age groups that do not now fall under the PGF umbrella. Most 10U -14U Houston parents still like to cling to those glory USFA days when they could stroll the beach between games with other B level teams who can post some level of success on their teams webpage yet not have the fortitude to compete at ASA nationals. But really what I love most about you is that you are willing to come on here and lecture me about sticking my nose into business where it doesnt belong but that is exactly what you did when I was talking about North TX softball and how it relates to VTD and ASA. Hello pot meet kettle.

Finally Mr Spaz, et tu brute? Of all people I didnt expect this from someone who resides in the land of milk and honey where friendlys were invented and used on a regular basis for competition. If you go back and read my post again, I never stated that these tournaments were a rip-off. I was just making the point that VTD was charging considerably more than ASA tournaments and responding to claims from people like Joe that VTD is awesome because they have tournaments with 16 or 20 teams. Yes VTD tourneys do cost more and yes they do appear to guarantee more games than most of the ASA tournaments I have seen. But the simple reason these tournaments have teams is not because VTD is such a great organization or better than ASA, its because there are so many bad to mediocre B teams out there trying to grab that piece of plastic nirvana. There is nothing wrong with that. I truly believe every girl playing ball should be able to experience that thrill of throwing your glove into the air after winning that championship game or winning that game to put you into the championship. Just dont try and feed me a line of BS about the merits of VTD. I am a softball elitist - guilty as charged - but true A level softball, at least in TX, will always be played at the ASA level and not VTD or IFA or PONY

[doittoit]

Or in NTX..

Just ask bmiller about that organization in Deer Park!

[Sheriff10]

Now that all the DFW's are listed it makes it much easier.

All of DFW? I don't see any tournaments for McKinney, Allen, Flower Mound, Southlake, Keller, Grapevine, N. Richland Hills, White Settlement....

Now THAT IS funny! How many did they ask for?? I think NONE might be the correct answer. Don't you Ken... I mean Joe?

[Joe]

Dont worry though I know you are busy right now.

Yes, but I'll make time for the puke you're regurgitating. Something about ASA did you say?

...ASA bashing by a lot of people on here.

Well earned....much deserved...more to come...

But most of the time the masses are not that intelligent and develop a sheep herd mentality and only do what they see other people doing.

Correct! See menja taliban auntie...and his notes about ASA.

God bless Houston and parents like you.

C'mon down and let me introduce some of my Katrina homies to your cracker a$$

...lecture me about sticking my nose into business where it doesnt belong....

Better there... than residing up ASA's rectum.

I was just making the point that VTD was charging considerably more than ASA tournaments...

Liar...desperate liar...

I am a softball analist...

Analist? Does it hurt?

[men talljie aunt]

Congratulations PONY Boy - you have mastered the fine art of cut and paste. But I always knew that about you. You have always had awesome pasting skills going back to your early childhood days when you use to eat Elmer's glue by the bottle.

So how about enlightening me about the evils of ASA and what VTD is specifically doing to offer a BETTER product on the field that ASA failed at so miserably over the years in North Tx? What is well earned and much deserved about the ASA bashing?

Cracker a$$ huh? I promise you I am more in tune with the Hispanic and African-American community than you ever thought about being. Be careful there - you do not know what you are talking about.

So I am desperately lying about VTD tourneys having a higher entry fee than ASA? Are you really sure about that one? Do you really want to hitch your wagon to that claim? Prove me wrong!

I said elitist - as in better than you - as in last year, as in today and as in next year. You are obviously missing the point here, as is a lot of other people. I am not trying to extol the greatness of ASA. I am just trying to be a voice of reason. I am going to support whatever organization draws in the very best teams, with the very best talent and with the highest goals for their team. Right now, and for the foreseeable future, that is ASA and PGF. Anytime you want to discuss facts and have debate based on reason - I'm your huckleberry.

[Joe]

Congratulations PONY Boy -

I said elitist - as in better than you - as in last year, as in today and as in next year. You are obviously missing the point here, as is a lot of other people. I am not trying to extol the greatness of ASA. I am just trying to be a voice of reason. I am going to support whatever organization draws in the very best teams, with the very best talent and with the highest goals for their team. Right now, and for the foreseeable future, that is ASA and PGF. Anytime you want to discuss facts and have debate based on reason - I'm your huckleberry.

Cracker Auntie

Everything your heart desires about ASA, VTD, PONY, WTF or whatever you want to call it has been discussed, re-cycled, re-inserted, re-discussed on HB. Presumably, you missed all of it... so I'll break away from my busy schedule to once again...fetch my lesson plan...and 'learn you' the virtues of your beloved ASA.

Let's start with the word you use to describe yourself, "elitest"....a word synonymous with arrogant, entitled, pretentious, conceited...or in my new neighborhood ...snotty, jerk, snob, a$$hole. You see...at my DD's age...save all the "elitest" ASA bullshi#t...and just show me the money. If PONY or VTD, Little league, basketweaving will help pay the tuition bill in a year or so....then BRING IT ON! I'll ride that PONY for four years...while you "elitest" your head up ASA's bunghole.

"Herd mentality"? ...there's simply no better example than those still loyal (you) to ASA. ASA ? Revisit these words: arrogant, entitled, pretentious, conceited... I can't help the fact that ASA continues to use and abuse it's loyal membership, won't listen to new ideas, won't respond to problems, doesn't include its membership in discussions, continues to employ those whose DDs have long retired from the game.... AND a flacid attempt at constructing a useful website for its membership. I can keep going, but I don't want to miss my tee time. In short though....if you want to continue to take it in the shorts...then by all means...I hope you enjoyed your stay at Motel 6 in Midland....in August!!!

Costs...ASA vs VTD? My DDs have been playing friendlies for about a decade. The one and only... that objected to our team playing friendlies...was FWASA!!! FWASA repeatedly objected to our local teams playing in friendlies...even to the point of threatening umpires if they participated! Something about paying ASA first for the privilege....Ha! We made it happen though...sneaking around ASA's heavy hand...umpires and teams.

Most of the 6 game guarantee formats (VTD) include six 75 minute games (or 5-6 inning) verses the same old tired format used by ASA in DFW...4gg...including two meaningless, worthless pool games, now shortened to 55 minutes by many (to squeeze in a few more teams = greedy)...then a 2 game bracket... with all your "elitest" 'A' teams chasing their plastic against those superpower 'B' teams. If you can't do the math and see that the better value is the six full games on the dirt vs the 55 minute pool game... then the word "elitest" fits nicely and should be followed by "dumba$$". Assuming the worst...I'll help you with some math though...

Spring 2010

Teams registered for VTD tournaments in DFW = 1000+
Teams registered for ASA tournaments in DFW = 100 or less

POW, POW !!! Ride 'em PONY....!!!

Of course, all 100 of those teams are the "elite" ones. Chuckle, chuckle...snort!!!

So please... save your preaching for you and your other dweebs out there that want to vomit your "elitest", ASA company line...and let me get back to my golf game...

[ADNIL812]

Most of the 6 game guarantee formats (VTD) include six 75 minute games (or 5-6 inning) verses the same old tired format used by ASA in DFW...4gg...including two meaningless, worthless pool games, now shortened to 55 minutes by many (to squeeze in a few more teams = greedy)...then a 2 game bracket... with all your "elitest" 'A' teams chasing their plastic against those superpower 'B' teams. If you can't do the math and see that the better value is the six full games on the dirt vs the 55 minute pool game... then the word "elitest" fits nicely and should be followed by "dumba$$". Assuming the worst...I'll help you with some math though...

Spring 2010

Teams registered for VTD tournaments in DFW = 1000+
Teams registered for ASA tournaments in DFW = 100 or less

Joe,
I tried to point that out earlier and I agree with you 100%.

[Joe]

Most of the 6 game guarantee formats (VTD) include six 75 minute games (or 5-6 inning) verses the same old tired format used by ASA in DFW...4gg...including two meaningless, worthless pool games, now shortened to 55 minutes by many (to squeeze in a few more teams = greedy)...then a 2 game bracket... with all your "elitest" 'A' teams chasing their plastic against those superpower 'B' teams. If you can't do the math and see that the better value is the six full games on the dirt vs the 55 minute pool game... then the word "elitest" fits nicely and should be followed by "dumba$$". Assuming the worst...I'll help you with some math though...

Spring 2010

Teams registered for VTD tournaments in DFW = 1000+
Teams registered for ASA tournaments in DFW = 100 or less

Joe,
I tried to point that out earlier and I agree with you 100%.

I know you did and I owe you a copywrite fee. Perhaps next time, the "Pow Pow" feature would drive your point home a bit more. Or...maybe it was the ..."chuckle, chuckle...snort!!!"