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by honest bob » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:37 am

Good day one & all here in the bucket world

Let me start off by saying HS coaches are just that Hs coaches,They teach PE,HISTORY & HEALTH most of the day & softabll in season.Let's all think about this just a second.If I ride a jackass a couple times a year will I be as good at riding that jackass as a guy that does it everyday.I think not,so dont expect your HS coach to approach anywhere close to the level of knowledge & skills that your "good" 16/18 Gold coaches can provide. Also most 16/18 coaches do the job for the love of the sport not the pay.That old HS coach is just a dumb blind hog trying to find some acorns.

Hs ball is the all you can buffet of softball.Its there, you can have all you want but it doesnt taste all that great.Remember you get what you pay for.I prefer to order from the menu at a nicer more expensive place AKA 16/18 GOLD.

Old Bob has remained silent for sometime now trying to let all of my desciples "run with it".Well I'm back and some of you gots some splainin to do!


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by rodehardputawaywet » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:50 am

Welcome back Bob!

The bucket has sorely missed you.
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by honest bob » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:57 am

rodehardputawaywet wrote:Welcome back Bob!

The bucket has sorely missed you.


Thank You Mr. Roadhard!

I feel it is truly time to set things straight & restore balance to to the Bucket.

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by CrushersDad » Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:37 am

honest bob wrote:Good day one & all here in the bucket world

Let me start off by saying HS coaches are just that Hs coaches,They teach PE,HISTORY & HEALTH most of the day & softabll in season.Let's all think about this just a second.If I ride a jackass a couple times a year will I be as good at riding that jackass as a guy that does it everyday.I think not,so dont expect your HS coach to approach anywhere close to the level of knowledge & skills that your "good" 16/18 Gold coaches can provide. Also most 16/18 coaches do the job for the love of the sport not the pay.That old HS coach is just a dumb blind hog trying to find some acorns.

Hs ball is the all you can buffet of softball.Its there, you can have all you want but it doesnt taste all that great.Remember you get what you pay for.I prefer to order from the menu at a nicer more expensive place AKA 16/18 GOLD.

Old Bob has remained silent for sometime now trying to let all of my desciples "run with it".Well I'm back and some of you gots some splainin to do!


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It's funny I would read this reply today.

Last night I asked DD if her HS coach had taught her anything; She siad "Yeah Dad... He taught me Natural Science".

Perfect
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by men talljie aunt » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:07 am

Dear Bobby -

Finally decided to grace us with your presence. BTW which team are you guys on now? I have a question, albeit perhaps a stupid one. What is the purpose of your 16U/18U travel ball coach; especially if he or she is coaching a talented team? What I am asking is "what is the primary focus or goal?" IMHO I believe it is to make sure his or her players get put in the optimum circumstances to maximize their potential for "looks" by college coaches. First and foremost I believe it is to get kids signed so they can litter their website with little Susie's college signing. I mean take a look at some of the top organizational websites. Nowhere do I see a lot of chestbumping about their won/loss record. Instead, it is all about who they have (whether they came up through the ranks of their younger teams - very unlikely) or who they stole away from other successful teams (very likely), and which major D1 conference they committed to.

HS coaches have no such purpose! They are simply there to try and win ball games. They are not necessarily administrators or recruiters (although some of the top HS programs in the area definitely do their share of recruiting). They are judged on their win/loss record. Travel ball coaches at the 16U/18U level are judges on how many kids they sign.

Now dont take this the wrong way and think I am saying HS coaches are better than Select coaches. I am simply saying they have two different purposes in my opinion. There is not a lot of instruction in select ball at this level. HS coaches are forced to be instructors because they rarely have the luxury of having a starting 9 made up solely of select players. Their livelihood is based on the number of wins they produce - period. The same is not true for select coaches.
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by rodehardputawaywet » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:51 am

I have never seen a HS softball coach's job in jeopardy based on the number of wins and losses. This is not HS Football. I have also never seen a TB coach play a girl based on donations to the booster club or been told that this girl must play because her daddy is on the school board.

Instructional? High School Ball?

I have only seen them screw girls up when they try and 'instruct'.
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by men talljie aunt » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:00 am

So are you telling me there is no "politics" involved with travel ball at this level? I believe there are several travel ball coaches in place at this level because they had a child go up through the ranks.

How do HS coaches advance? What are the factors involved with a coach leaving one school and then ending up at another? Same question for travel ball coaches.
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by honest bob » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:05 am

men talljie aunt wrote:Dear Bobby -

Finally decided to grace us with your presence. BTW which team are you guys on now? I have a question, albeit perhaps a stupid one. What is the purpose of your 16U/18U travel ball coach; especially if he or she is coaching a talented team? What I am asking is "what is the primary focus or goal?" IMHO I believe it is to make sure his or her players get put in the optimum circumstances to maximize their potential for "looks" by college coaches. First and foremost I believe it is to get kids signed so they can litter their website with little Susie's college signing. I mean take a look at some of the top organizational websites. Nowhere do I see a lot of chestbumping about their won/loss record. Instead, it is all about who they have (whether they came up through the ranks of their younger teams - very unlikely) or who they stole away from other successful teams (very likely), and which major D1 conference they committed to.

HS coaches have no such purpose! They are simply there to try and win ball games. They are not necessarily administrators or recruiters (although some of the top HS programs in the area definitely do their share of recruiting). They are judged on their win/loss record. Travel ball coaches at the 16U/18U level are judges on how many kids they sign.

Now dont take this the wrong way and think I am saying HS coaches are better than Select coaches. I am simply saying they have two different purposes in my opinion. There is not a lot of instruction in select ball at this level. HS coaches are forced to be instructors because they rarely have the luxury of having a starting 9 made up solely of select players. Their livelihood is based on the number of wins they produce - period. The same is not true for select coaches.


Good day MR MEN

Thanks for your warm welcome back for old BOB. Where do we start.

1. MY DD is now with one of the true super powers in Texas softball.And yes we have tat's and membership cards to prove it.
2.Our coaching staff provides training & instruction even at the 16/18 level.
3.Their purpose is to provide an enviroment in which all their players "stolen or brought up through the system"can become better people & players & also have a chance to be seen by the top College programs in the nation.
4.High school Coaches have no real purpose period, unless they are good art or health teachers. They are motivated by wins & losses,all the more reason they dont have your DD'S best interest at heart"just their own asses".

We could go on & on here but we both agree that FAMILY GUY is a funny freaking show!!!!



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by men talljie aunt » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:18 am

Thanks for helping me make my point Bob. In TX, softball is definitely not football. In my opinion HS softball coaches' purpose is to try and win district or make the playoffs. For the most part, that is the barometer used in determining if the season was a success or failure. This is true for football as well, but the football coach is more involved with the transition to college process. Again, I think some people are missing the point I am trying to make (which probably speaks volumes to my ability to clearly state my opinions). These coaches have two different sets of standards. Yes, select coaches as a whole are far superior to a lot of HS coaches. But, regardless of their stupidity or acumen, HS coaches are usually doing their best (however weak it may be) to win games.
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by honest bob » Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:25 am

men talljie aunt wrote:Thanks for helping me make my point Bob. In TX, softball is definitely not football. In my opinion HS softball coaches' purpose is to try and win district or make the playoffs. For the most part, that is the barometer used in determining if the season was a success or failure. This is true for football as well, but the football coach is more involved with the transition to college process. Again, I think some people are missing the point I am trying to make (which probably speaks volumes to my ability to clearly state my opinions). These coaches have two different sets of standards. Yes, select coaches as a whole are far superior to a lot of HS coaches. But, regardless of their stupidity or acumen, HS coaches are usually doing their best (however weak it may be) to win games.



I have heard something about the football you speak of.Is it a popular sport or something that is just starting to catch on. I must assume it's something only played in HS.

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