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SOLUTIONS TO PREVENT OVERFLOW OF TEAMS

by tex » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:26 am

I hear all the time people saying there are too many select teams because any dad that is not happy, for whatever reason, with the way his dd is being played goes and starts a team to try and spot light her.

The question is WHAT SOLUTIONS can we have in place to prevent a 100 10u, 12u etc., in an area which in turns, prevents having teams that can represent Texas in the Nationals Tournments because the area is so saturated with so so teams??

Don't get me wrong I would like to see any dd that wants to play ball, play ball. But maybe all of them are not ready for select ball, yet.

SOLUTIONS ???????
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by kelpro » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:53 am

Maybe it is not always the Dads wanting better for their daughter. Of coarse we all want what is best for our DD.
Have you looked at your current team and seen how many that you currently have that have been with you in the past 2 years?
Maybe it is not the Dads taking their DD to greener pasture, but the current coach not doing a quality job teaching the ones he has.
Most parents will move not because they think Suzie Q is not playing where she might like, but the fact that she is not getting the quality instruction that a parent is looking for.
I know that I am looking for player development, not the best 9 (although that would be nice to have). Preparing for the next level is what we are looking for.
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by whowhatwhenwherewhy » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:57 am

First and foremost... It starts with the parents being open minded enough to know that their dd doesn't belong in select ball. I see it happening all the time. I know first hand of at least one team that has no reason whatsoever playing select in first year 12U, but they are doing it anyway. Why?? They think that overall, the girls will eventually hit their stride and it will make them better players, when in reality, they barely belong in league ball. Sick, so sick!!
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by Joe » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:04 am

whowhatwhenwherewhy wrote: They think that overall, the girls will eventually hit their stride and it will make them better players, when in reality, they barely belong in league ball. Sick, so sick!!


"Sick, so sick?" Yes I agree...you're judgement on some girl's ability to play is indeed sick. Let us know where you live so anyone of us can avoid your "educated" appraisel.

Here's some reality for you... look up "Dumb ass" in the dictionary and I believe you'll find YOUR "stride".
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by 88FROM88 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:12 am

Here is a solution for you , when you dd's REAL select team is hosting a tourny to fundraise, don't let the NOT REAL teams enter. Maybe all the REAL select teams can follow suite and then poof..... you have your own private league and the others will go somewhere else.

I am bieng sarcastic of course.

You are a Jerk off in my opinion.
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by Merlin » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:14 am

Playing vs. Competing


Have we developed a system that has created an unintended consequence in player development?

I can honestly say that kids are playing many more games over a 12 month period than ever before yet we find fewer competitors in today’s culture. What do I mean by this statement? Pound for pound, you will find more kids that are more technically sound than ever before but we are confusing ability for talent. As Allen Fox, author of The Winners Mind suggest, “Most people mistake speed and skill for talent. Real talent starts with energy, drive, work ethic and the will to win. Without these attributes, a player can never be great.”

In this country, we have focused so much on playing, that we have not taught our players to compete-to fight- to work hard or to have the will to win. We emphasize playing, technical ability and skills. Our youth players play a lot of softball, but few compete.

It is not always the fault of the players. Our “system” or our “softball culture” is dysfunctional. When a player is not playing, she simply changes teams. There is no thought about competing for a spot on the team, fighting for a spot, getting better to earn a spot – we simply change teams. The message to the players is that striving to get better is not important; it is simply how you play and how you look.

High School age players don’t care much about the outcome of most games they play. They do care about “showing” – about playing to showcase their skills and abilities for college coaches. How many times have you heard a parent tell their daughter that you played well or you showed well despite losing the game?

Add to this the large number of meaningless games and we have a deadly combination. The emphasis slowly changes from the game to the individual. The emphasis has changed to playing and showing and competing is lost. By the time our players move to the next level, they have not learned how to compete.

In fact, research is very clear that constant praising of children’s innate (softball skills or intellectual) ability can prevent young athletes/students from living up to their potential. On the other hand, studies show that teaching young people to focus on effort rather than ability helps make them high achievers and competitors in school, on the field and in life!

As coaches, we must do our part to emphasize attitude and effort – two elements that we have control over each and every day and will largely influence our success in life.

Until next month,

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by chelsierage » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:56 am

We have system in place it is call B and A ,no matter how good you are if your team is playing with more they 7 girls that have been with your team for more then two years your A , any way you look at it maybe not a good A but still A. Quit chasing trophys play A and let the girls who just started playing.Play with girls of there equal.I hear this girl throws over 50 and has 5 pitches,playing B.If the parents of the real exp player would quit worring about winning trophys and go play A there would be a place for all the girls to play and enjoy.There are not too many teams .there are to many teams calling them shelves a B team and if they would play A maybe the level of play would be better and make every one else better.And the girls who just start might play longer and see if they can hit there stride.Instead of quiting to early because your daughter is good enough to play A and kicks the other girls head in every weekend.and never gets the chance to see .Because you want to play B.My daughter has been playing select now for four years and has been playing A for 2.Teams in dfw that are reg B 12u over 100, A maybe 5 there is the problem right there
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by taking2 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:12 am

Chelsierage - your comments are pretty rich...coming from a guy whose DD's team went to usfa "B" world series last year just so they could win a trophy. Practice what you preach my man. :oops:
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by hit4power » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:11 am

The question is WHAT SOLUTIONS can we have in place to prevent a 100 10u, 12u etc., in an area which in turns, prevents having teams that can represent Texas in the Nationals Tournments because the area is so saturated with so so teams??


I used to agree with this statement - too many teams diluting the available talent, but I no longer do.

First, by definition, there aren't "too many" teams however one would define "too many". There are just the number of teams needed for the number of players and parents interested in supporting/participating on a TB team. Excess teams fold up or merge every year. We always get to equilibrium in that regard.

Are some of these teams a lot weaker than others? Absolutely - But those teams are not taking talent away from the top programs and teams in an area. Those teams are weak for a reason - they don't have the top talent and usually don't have the top coaching either. In talking to the managers and coaches of the top programs (and I'm defining "top" to mean the ones that consistently get their 18G teams qualified at ASA or PGF) I've never heard any of them complain about "too many" teams taking top kids from them. Every year, their tryouts are packed and they put a strong team (or even two) on the field.

The situation might be a little muddier at 12U and 14U due to more team turnover/churn; players and parents new to TB; etc. but even there I'd argue that there aren't "too many" teams and I'd be surprised to hear complaining about dilution from the coaches and organizations that are consistently successful.
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by chelsierage » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:19 am

taking two that was our second year and after that we went A
How many B teams right now playing B that have been together more than two years with the same seven girls playing b 20 to 25 answer me that take two .Take DFW ,Houston,Austin,Cal and see who has the most A teams .and that one will have the strongests teams.If you played both years of 10u b then you should be A team and this is my opionion take or not I do not care .But DFW has more than 5 A teams at 12u the rest are playing B
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Re: SOLUTIONS TO PREVENT OVERFLOW OF TEAMS
We have system in place it is call B and A ,no matter how good you are if your team is playing with more they 7 girls that have been with your team for more then two years .
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