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Tired of Umpire Bashing

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by Skarp » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:10 am

Demonboy wrote:
Skarp wrote:
Sam wrote:The fact is that they do their best and they go to much more training than we do as coaches...

Or, stated differently (and in the immortal words of Sean Connery):

Your best? Losers always talk about their best. Winners go home and *** the prom queen.




Losers lament that they got hosed by the umpire :twisted:

1st-graders eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches with the crusts cut off. :evil: :evil:
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by SSdad » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:16 am

Skarp wrote:
Sam wrote:The fact is that they do their best and they go to much more training than we do as coaches...

Or, stated differently (and in the immortal words of Sean Connery):

Your best? Losers always talk about their best. Winners go home and *** the prom queen.


Stanley Goodspeed--she was the prom queen

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by Skarp » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:18 am

SSdad wrote:
Skarp wrote:
Sam wrote:The fact is that they do their best and they go to much more training than we do as coaches...

Or, stated differently (and in the immortal words of Sean Connery):

Your best? Losers always talk about their best. Winners go home and *** the prom queen.


Stanley Goodspeed--she was the prom queen

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Actually it is "Carla was the prom queen." Come strong or don't come at all. ;)
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by artomatic » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:21 am

hey are you guys drinking FPINFO's koolaid or something?
Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.
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by Skarp » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:24 am

artomatic wrote:hey are you guys drinking FPINFO's koolaid or something?

FPINFO is actually moving in to my basement. I don't know...I just sensed a kindred soul when I read his words. And sensing also that he was probably homeless and posting from the public library, I pm'd him about it. The rest is history.
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by SSdad » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:25 am

artomatic wrote:hey are you guys drinking FPINFO's koolaid or something?


OH YEAAHH!!
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by artomatic » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:29 am

Skarp wrote:
artomatic wrote:hey are you guys drinking FPINFO's koolaid or something?

FPINFO is actually moving in to my basement. I don't know...I just sensed a kindred soul when I read his words. And sensing also that he was probably homeless and posting from the public library, I pm'd him about it. The rest is history.


are you letting him bring kitty along also?

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by MTR » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:01 pm

Skarp wrote:All of that said, you do get what you pay for. Umpires don't deserve more, but paying more will probably attract more competent persons to the profession.


That just fact. Paying more may attract more umpires, but it doesn't make them good. I deal with this first hand and as logical as it seems, it just doesn't work that way.

As far as deserving more, it all depends on where you are standing in the country and the expectations & commitment of the umpire. There are still places in this country where umpires are barely getting more than $12 a game and others where $40 per game is a good average. Some umpires deserve much more while others barely deserve a hot dog and soda.
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by Skarp » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:18 pm

MTR wrote:
Skarp wrote:All of that said, you do get what you pay for. Umpires don't deserve more, but paying more will probably attract more competent persons to the profession.


That just fact. Paying more may attract more umpires, but it doesn't make them good. I deal with this first hand and as logical as it seems, it just doesn't work that way.

As far as deserving more, it all depends on where you are standing in the country and the expectations & commitment of the umpire. There are still places in this country where umpires are barely getting more than $12 a game and others where $40 per game is a good average. Some umpires deserve much more while others barely deserve a hot dog and soda.

People deserve what they are willing to accept. If I offer you $10 to mow my lawn, and you agree to do it for that price, then that is what you deserve for mowing my lawn.

You don't "deserve" more just because $10 isn't very much money, or because someone someplace else gets paid more for the same work, or because mowing a lawn is worth more money based on some third party's abstract assessment of value. You are worth the lowest price that you are willing to accept and still get the job...period.

Now if I up the price, I can expect to have a lot more people bid on the job...and they will present me with their various credentials, achievements, etc., and I will choose who I think is best. And if they don't work out, I will have plenty of other options to turn to.

So raising the rate attracts a larger pool to choose from, allowing you to weed out those that don't perform to your expectations and to give repeat business to those who do. The providers that survive and thrive are inevitably more competent (or at least better salesmen) than those who don't. That's how a working market functions.

Conversely, paying people based on misplaced notions of "desert" is the quickest way to impede a functioning market. Exhibit A = Teachers.
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