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ever heard the saying "arguing on-line" is like the special Olympics"??? Even if you win...still retarded!
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A&&hole Coach - Posts: 36
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Well, I have to admit I have seen quite a few of Iluvblue's arguments on here, so I guess you're right A-hole coach. 
- OutfieldAngel
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There is no argument taking place.
The OP asked about catcher's calling the game. As you can see by the responses, some want to have catchers call games, others do not. Clearly not a black and white answer and it comes down to how the coach chooses to run their team.
Than a moron with tons of NSA experience wants to throw some insults instead of talking intelligently about the original question. Then by asking basically what is wrong with Merced, he/she shows they dont know, that they dont know.
Merced actually puts on a nice tourney, fields were great, little snack bar. But if you have to ask>>????????
I think many should just get the good ol' book of coaching, follow it to a tee, and win all of the games they are involved in.
Pretty easy.
The OP asked about catcher's calling the game. As you can see by the responses, some want to have catchers call games, others do not. Clearly not a black and white answer and it comes down to how the coach chooses to run their team.
Than a moron with tons of NSA experience wants to throw some insults instead of talking intelligently about the original question. Then by asking basically what is wrong with Merced, he/she shows they dont know, that they dont know.
Merced actually puts on a nice tourney, fields were great, little snack bar. But if you have to ask>>????????
I think many should just get the good ol' book of coaching, follow it to a tee, and win all of the games they are involved in.
Pretty easy.
- Iluvblue
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Yer messin wit the wrong dude Scooter. The Pac10 gets advice from him. And he's a legend in his own mind. His MMC team out scored their league 452 to 9 last season & he's gotten over 200 girls scholarships.
Our bb club started softball, but we don't play the Monarchs!
Our bb club started softball, but we don't play the Monarchs!
- ForumFools
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Some missing points for anti-catcher pitch callers:
1. Colleges are vying for winning records, at times for at-large berths to post season, conference records, and the coach's salary/job depends on wins. In that circumstance, I would want more control too. Not a fair comparison.
2. You can have a give/take relationship in rotating the responsibility by weekends or by type of tournament. Catcher calls showcases, coach calls qualifiers/nationals (our case this summer), new catchers call non-seeded pool games, or limiting to 1-2 games per weekend.
3. It's not fair to generally blame the catcher for one loss, even in an ITB or 7th inning situation. Who's to say the other team wouldn't have scored 10 runs with the coach calling? Now, if the catchers record is 1-15 and the coach is 15-1 with the same calibur of competition and the same pitchers, yes you have an issue.
I'm not saying she's all that and/or I'm the best teacher ever, but my kid (and our other catchers) has called some big wins against high level teams. Here's what worked for us- record college games and pause the DVR before each pitch. Encourage her to watch warm up swings, stance in the box, hands, and any other tendencies she can pick up. Have her call the next pitch and tell you why. Jot it down- her call, the actual call, and the result. Make sure she's also paying attention to the count, the pitchers strengths, and the entire game situation. Teach set up pitches. I had the luxury of her living in my house, so time may be an issue. You'll be amazed at how fast they can pick apart a game. 14U is a great age to introduce all of this and it does help if they/you understand swing mechanics.
And may I remind everyone of a freshman who called an entire season for a ncaa national champion, senior, Player of the Year? It can be done.
Of course mistakes still happen and every once in a while I'll still ask, "do you think a (insert pitch) would have been better in that case" or "what the hell were you thinking".
1. Colleges are vying for winning records, at times for at-large berths to post season, conference records, and the coach's salary/job depends on wins. In that circumstance, I would want more control too. Not a fair comparison.
2. You can have a give/take relationship in rotating the responsibility by weekends or by type of tournament. Catcher calls showcases, coach calls qualifiers/nationals (our case this summer), new catchers call non-seeded pool games, or limiting to 1-2 games per weekend.
3. It's not fair to generally blame the catcher for one loss, even in an ITB or 7th inning situation. Who's to say the other team wouldn't have scored 10 runs with the coach calling? Now, if the catchers record is 1-15 and the coach is 15-1 with the same calibur of competition and the same pitchers, yes you have an issue.
I'm not saying she's all that and/or I'm the best teacher ever, but my kid (and our other catchers) has called some big wins against high level teams. Here's what worked for us- record college games and pause the DVR before each pitch. Encourage her to watch warm up swings, stance in the box, hands, and any other tendencies she can pick up. Have her call the next pitch and tell you why. Jot it down- her call, the actual call, and the result. Make sure she's also paying attention to the count, the pitchers strengths, and the entire game situation. Teach set up pitches. I had the luxury of her living in my house, so time may be an issue. You'll be amazed at how fast they can pick apart a game. 14U is a great age to introduce all of this and it does help if they/you understand swing mechanics.
And may I remind everyone of a freshman who called an entire season for a ncaa national champion, senior, Player of the Year? It can be done.
Of course mistakes still happen and every once in a while I'll still ask, "do you think a (insert pitch) would have been better in that case" or "what the hell were you thinking".
- 3Bsnag
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One more thing, not every catcher has the personality, desire, or detailed-ness to call her own game. It should be case by case.
- 3Bsnag
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All I can say is "I luv Hey Bucket" Every day I learn something and every day I laugh My ass of reading all the post. I can’t finish my day w/o checking in to see what’s going on. if we didn’t have healthy debates life would be boring, with nothing to talk about but the weather. thank you ILB for always making it interesting '
'- catchers_rock
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catchers_rock wrote:All I can say is "I luv Hey Bucket" Every day I learn something and every day I laugh My ass of reading all the post. I can’t finish my day w/o checking in to see what’s going on. if we didn’t have healthy debates life would be boring, with nothing to talk about but the weather. thank you ILB for always making it interesting
Great attitude. No reason to get pissed off just cuz someone disagrees with you. I know, I know just don't disagree with God...
- Skooter
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