CharlieHough wrote:I was there...up close...have good friends on both teams.
All I know. I think it is time for:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI
Trophy Hunter wrote:To All Rebel Parents -
The Rebel Chant is not a cheer.
It intimidates and frightens many of the opposing players. And you know this.
You must. You can see it in the eyes of the opposing pitcher when she glances up at the phalanx of screaming adults in your bleachers.
You employ the chant to kick the other team when they're down.
It is unsportsmanlike at this age level.
It is the primary reason incidents such as the one Sunday always seem to involve your team.
It is the reason your team is the most reviled in SoCal Travel Ball.
It reflects poorly on your yourselves, your coaches, and most importantly, your daughters.
Parents don't respond well when their children are being frightened and intimidated by a group of adults.
The Rebel Chant is not a cheer, it is a provocation.
If you weren't aware before this, you are now.
In the future, please conduct yourselves accordingly.
anonlooker wrote:AM Softball wrote:
Thank you and I have had NUMEROUS parents and Corona Angel parents already write us an apologize. If it was the "ghetto Rebels," why did CA parents apologize? Just curious on that. The tournament director took both sides and after hearing our side allowed us to continue playing so if we were at fault, why were we not kicked out? Add everything up and common sense tells you that the losing team was probably frustrated much more than the Rebels.
Two things:
First, the CA coaches / parents most likely apologized because they understand a member of their "team family" was in part responsible for the incident. Apologizing would be the stand-up thing to do. Did any Rebel parents or coaches apologize for their role?
Second, when I add everything up, common sense tells me to get the children out of there, as quickly as possible. Take them somewhere they feel safe, where you can discuss what happened.
Putting them back out on the field, and subjecting them to the beating they took, is unconscionable. What the hell were you thinking?
goodeye wrote:anonlooker wrote:AM Softball wrote:
Thank you and I have had NUMEROUS parents and Corona Angel parents already write us an apologize. If it was the "ghetto Rebels," why did CA parents apologize? Just curious on that. The tournament director took both sides and after hearing our side allowed us to continue playing so if we were at fault, why were we not kicked out? Add everything up and common sense tells you that the losing team was probably frustrated much more than the Rebels.
Two things:
First, the CA coaches / parents most likely apologized because they understand a member of their "team family" was in part responsible for the incident. Apologizing would be the stand-up thing to do. Did any Rebel parents or coaches apologize for their role?
Second, when I add everything up, common sense tells me to get the children out of there, as quickly as possible. Take them somewhere they feel safe, where you can discuss what happened.
Putting them back out on the field, and subjecting them to the beating they took, is unconscionable. What the hell were you thinking?
Exactly what I have been thinking. Think this incident had anything to do with the "10 errors" mentioned earlier in this thread?
hotwheels wrote:AM Softball wrote:hotwheels wrote:I hear what you are saying but you are acting like your team had no fault here.....Don't taunt the other team....That didn't help things.....You guys were both way out of line and both parties are to blame not just one team.......DON'T BLAME.....FIX!
Nobody taunted anyone except the Angels taunting the Rebels (1 Angel coach and 1 Angel parent). Bottom line. After the "taunting" got OUT OF CONTROL BY ONE ANGEL PARENT, the Rebel parents defended our kids by telling this drunk fool to shut up. This is when he rushed to our side trying to fight in the stands. He was held back, but he obviously wanted more when he ran at our crowd.
Hotwheels, I am not sure if you are a man or a woman but if you are a man, and some lunatic ran as fast as possible, swung and hit your daughters FEMALE coach, and another MOM on the team, would you have tried to stop him or would you try and discuss things calmly when he's swinging at your wife? Just curious.
Yes, you are absolutely correct but at that point it's too late. Of course I would a fighting madman at that point but I was mainly referring to prior to it getting to that point...I was responding to what someone who probably wasn't there either wrote but what they had said was that after the game there were Rebels parents yelling at this Angel parent from across the field. Then the Angel parent took off running at them....
My point was if they weren't yelling at him from across the would he have still charged over there??? Possibly but maybe not....I was only trying to say that in situations/conflicts like this it ALWAYS takes to two....Very, very rarely is it one sided....
I think the Rebels (If this is even true by the way) had the responsibility of not taunting him when the situation was hot to begin with.....The Angel parent has his own responsibilities that caused his part too....Him charging over is whole other crazy issue!
AM Softball wrote:Trophy Hunter wrote:To All Rebel Parents -
The Rebel Chant is not a cheer.
It intimidates and frightens many of the opposing players. And you know this.
You must. You can see it in the eyes of the opposing pitcher when she glances up at the phalanx of screaming adults in your bleachers.
You employ the chant to kick the other team when they're down.
It is unsportsmanlike at this age level.
It is the primary reason incidents such as the one Sunday always seem to involve your team.
It is the reason your team is the most reviled in SoCal Travel Ball.
It reflects poorly on your yourselves, your coaches, and most importantly, your daughters.
Parents don't respond well when their children are being frightened and intimidated by a group of adults.
The Rebel Chant is not a cheer, it is a provocation.
If you weren't aware before this, you are now.
In the future, please conduct yourselves accordingly.
The Rebel chant is a CHEER and NOBODY will tell our organization not to cheer for our own team. There is NOTHING wrong with cheering for your own team and I suggest you start a team chant. We won't complain. It IS a sports game. Have you ever been to a Laker game? Clipper game? Football game? They CHANT their name and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with it.
Thanks for letting everyone know how much it bothers you. I bet they do it more now.
kevin wrote:Anyone have have video of the "REBEL" chant they can post on Youtube
I've gotta see this.
dodgerblue wrote:This started out as a serious post and has had me busting up for the last 30 minutes. My take on this is the game should have ended and both coaches should have controlled the parents and just cancelled the game. Don't let it get out of hand just to keep playing in a meaningless tournament. We had this happen a while back parents were adults about it seperated everyone and everybody went their seperate ways sometimes it gets heated but someone needs to step up and difuse the situation. This looks like it was preventable, now the 12 yr old girls are tramatized good job both of you. Enough of he said she said save yourself the humiliation that you have caused both of your orginazations and stop airing out your dirty laundry here.
